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Antrim / Re: White family of Whitehall Broughshane
« on: Tuesday 30 August 16 19:17 BST (UK)  »
Hi JD!

Took me a minute or two to work out who you were!

It was mum who told me that Granda White was at the coronation of a King George - I knew it couldn't be George VI, so had thought it had to be George V. Thanks for putting me right on that score!

I had seen some of MK's letters from lady in Australia and with immense help and patience from Frank White of Colorado Springs, have managed to trace family back to John White b1782. Cannot find any trace of his father. Even visited Racavan graveyard last week and saw headstone of our great great grandmother, Margaret erected by Granda White's father, John - but, disappointingly, no headstone for his father.

Further research has shown that Fulke White's younger son, John, who is buried in 1st Broughshane, couldn't possibly have been the father of John b1782, as he would have been too young to have a son.

Does MK know for sure that Timothy White of 18th century was his father?

I'll get your phone no. from mum and give you a call sometime soon.

Cathy


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Antrim / Re: White family of Whitehall Broughshane
« on: Sunday 21 August 16 19:44 BST (UK)  »
Hi Frank! Enjoy your picnic! It's raining here and chaotic traffic. There's some kind of truck rally and roads round Portrush, Portstewart and Coleraine are jam-packed.

I'm totally baffled over link to Sir George. Of course you're right - you've done much more research than I! Have been online nearly 24/7 trying to establish elusive link.

What I can't get is direct link, but I know it's there. Why did Jack, George's son, visit my grandfather every Sunday? Why did he want my grandfather to buy Whitehall to keep it in the family? Why did solicitors come after Jack's death to tell my grandfather he was closest living link to Sir George? Just wonder if there are some undiscovered skeletons in the closet of the White clan.

This link: libraryireland.com showed in 1910 there was indeed a Jack White in Roughan, Broughshane and General Sir George White CB, The Misses White at Whitehall (less than 2 miles from Roughan).

Going to drive to my Uncle Sammy's tomorrow to see if I can jog his memory (he's 95). He's still in Broughshane.

Wish I could send you pic of my grandfather. He looks like all the Whites and so proud in his uniform. He was in Royals and Blues and would have had career there, but was told to come home to farm as, allegedly their servants were taking advantage and running farm into the ground. He would have preferred military career in England. He bred racehorses eventually, as well as farming, but always loved horses and had one racing in Grand National in 1950s. I'm sure the Field Marshall would have been proud.

Keep in touch.
Cathy

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Antrim / Re: White family of Whitehall Broughshane
« on: Sunday 21 August 16 14:25 BST (UK)  »
Hi Frank, think I've discovered link with my family to Sir George. My mum has just told me that his father was John White who died when he was around 64. She never met him as she was born in 1929. He was Sir George's younger brother - the eldest was James (the one you're researching). That would mean that Sir George was my grandfather's uncle! Hope that all makes sense.

Cathy

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Antrim / Re: White family of Whitehall Broughshane
« on: Saturday 20 August 16 16:07 BST (UK)  »
Hi Frank, just spoke to my mum whose memory isn't what it used to be!

She told me that Captain Jack (George's son) and his son, Tony, used come in horse and trap to visit my grandfather, James, at Roughan, Broughshane, every Sunday. She said Tony was only a little boy then. She said it was indeed Jack who had wanted her father to buy Whitehall but he couldn't afford it as there were no mortgages in those days.

She said that she visited Whitehall with her father when she was a little girl after a fire and it frightened her because she remembered the big rounded doors and the fire marks. She said her father had gone down to help. There was some suspicion over whether the fire had been started deliberately. I don't know if this is the same fire as you mentioned.

She remembers that after Jack's death, solicitors came to visit and told her father that he was the now the nearest living relative to General Sir George. Wish I could find out how exactly.

We still have a large print of a picture of Sir George which she said hung in her Uncle Johnny's house from when George was still alive - a print of the original portrait commissioned by Queen Victoria and which still hangs in the Queen's collection in Buckingham Palace.

My grandfather is buried in the same graveyard as George who has a very impressive grave and commemoration in Broughshane.

My mum says she's 'not very clear' today, but if she remembers any more, I'll certainly get back to you! Keep in touch.

Cathy

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Antrim / Re: White family of Whitehall Broughshane
« on: Saturday 20 August 16 15:25 BST (UK)  »
Sorry, Frank. Just one correction. My Grandfather's brother was 'Johnny', not Jack!
Cathy

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Antrim / Re: White family of Whitehall Broughshane
« on: Saturday 20 August 16 14:51 BST (UK)  »
Hi Frank, hope you enjoyed banquet. If it's any help, my grandfather, James White, was born c. 1877. He had a sister, Margretta, who died young. He had 6 children - Greta, May, Frank, Esther, Samuel (my uncle) and Kathleen, my mother. He had a brother, Jack (not Jack, George's son. Tried to attach pic of him in Horseguards in 1910 just before coronation of George V, before returning to family farm at Roughan, Broughshane, but it wouldn't send. Site said it was too big. Hope that may be of some use. Cathy

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Antrim / Re: White family of Whitehall Broughshane
« on: Friday 19 August 16 23:20 BST (UK)  »
Hi, please can you let me know how I am connected to Sir George Stuart White. My mother is the daughter of James White (m Agnes Meban), Roughan, Broughshane. James White was in Horseguards and present at coronation of George V or VI before coming back to farm at Roughan, Broughshane. Jack White (George's son) visited frequently and according to my mother, wanted him to buy Whitehall, so it wouldn't go out of family's hands. My mother (who is 87) said she visited Whitehall occasionally as a little girl and said she hadn't felt comfortable there as there had been a fire which destroyed a lot (also letters). Her brother, Samuel White, is 95 and remembers Jack (son) and sons, Tony and Derrick, clearly. Tony came up to Roughan frequently to visit and my mother remembers Jack taking them into school into school, in horse and cart, noses running, eschewing use of school bus. Can anyone tell me how General Sir George is related to my grandfather, James White, of Roughan, Broughshane. Would be much appreciated. I would love to know.

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