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Hampshire & IOW Lookup Requests / Re: Bastardry Bond, Alton
« on: Tuesday 04 February 20 00:55 GMT (UK)  »
Are you still looking into this Sarah? I've also got Thomas Small in my tree. I think his father was John Maffey who was married at the time of his birth (to Mary Holloway), and his mother was Ann Small who was unmarried and born in Silchester, Hampshire. This Ann worked at a lunatic asylum in Hampshire in 1841 and as a cook in 1851

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Not sure how to "close" this request, but I have now found his birth and so don't need his baptism looked up at the archives.. he was actually born Thomas Henry THROPP. Which I have confirmed is the correct person with all the relevant records and my Ancestry DNA matches. Thank you everyone who has replied to this post  :)

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: LMA look up request (St Giles Parish Records)
« on: Thursday 26 September 19 15:10 BST (UK)  »
Do you have him on the 1911 census, if so could you please post details

On the 1911 Census he is assumed to be away at Sea, as his wife and their children are alone on the 1911 census but she is listed as married.

I have his marriage certificate in 1903 in Southampton (to his wife Bertha), his Navy record from 1904, their children's births in the registry index, wife+children on the 1911 census, Thomas death index in 1936 and his wife and children in 1939.

I can post or private message copies of the records if allowed

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / LMA look up request (St Giles Parish Records)
« on: Thursday 26 September 19 15:01 BST (UK)  »
Hello,

Is anybody who will be at London Metropolitan Archives able to have a search through the records there for me? I am trying to find a baptism for my Great Great Grandad who was supposedly born in St Giles area of London in September 1877 (Thomas Henry Trott). I got this information from his Navy record, but I haven't been able to find him in the birth index registry which is why I am hoping to find a baptism record instead.

The navy record also states his parents as Thomas Henry and Alice.. but I haven't been able to find a marriage or anything for anyone matching those names in the right areas/years so it would be good if the parish marriage records could also be looked at??

And perhaps if any other Trotts are baptised in the years around 1877 there they could be his siblings. There is a birth index registry for a Walter Trott born in St Giles but his parents aren't called Thomas or Alice.

I am at a blank finding out anything about Thomas before 1903 or his family so this would be a great help!!


National archives states the St Giles Parish Records are held at LMA but i'm not sure of the exact reference numbers for the Parish Baptism & Marriage records and don't know how to find out!

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/N13971914

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It looks as though Frederick John Rensch was actually born 2 March 1910 rather than 1909 - birth registered in Hackney, Jun qtr 1910, with mother's maiden name Boyce.

It's correctly recorded as 2 March 1910 on his school record (admitted to Mandeville St School, 16 June 1913, father Charles of 30 Penda Rd), and also on his death registration (Nov 1998 Surrey Northern).

It's incorrectly recorded as 2 March 1909 on his 1918 workhouse admission record.  NB I note that on this record the address of his aunt Elizabeth Taylor (next of kin) is recorded as 30 Penda Rd, matching the family's address on the school record as well as on Ethel's 1913 baptism.

Thank you avm228! I hadn't picked up on that and details like correct birth year are so important during family research. I appreciate the time you took to look into it and School Admission Record is a great find - thank you very much :)

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To theirchild, sorry I don't know your name. My name is Rosie. Although I am quite experienced with Ancestry, Findmypast and a few other sites I have found helpful researching my family history such as freeBMD and britishnewspaperarchive, "RootsChat" isn't something I've really come accross or used. As you can tell by my profile. As such, I really haven't gotten used to using the site and find it a bit confusing. I'm sure it's easy once you know how but I really don't know my way around it. Hence why I have only just come accross your reply to my thread and your message telling me about your reply. (I also have dyslexia which does make things more difficult sometimes). I am sorry it has taken me such a long time to get back to you. Trust me, it isn't you.. I often reply to long written messages in an unusually long time even ones I have seen straight away because it takes me a while to take in all the information.

I would like to thank you so much for taking the time to research the baptisms.. especially trawling through to 1924 to find Frederick John and John Ernest. You were so thorough, including other baptisms with the name Rensch (who are all related to me). And including all the details word for word. Having the confirmation of names, birth dates, parentage as well as address and occupation of the father gives such a good insight into my family research.

The first baptism, Charles Henry b 1907 is my mother's Grandfather who she remembers well. He and his two siblings were orphaned, and he was in a boys home as a child. At some point he moved to Southampton and married my Great Grandmother in 1932. I believe that him, his brother and sister were all sent to different homes and very possibly didn't have contact again. He was about 10.

Although their mother died in 1917 and their father was in Her Majesty's Army I don't know why the children couldn't stay with an aunt or uncle, or their father couldn't take them when he returned. (It was an aunt who took them to the Hackney Union Workhouse, from where they were transfered to Homes). The story as passed down through the family is that their father died on a boat coming back from the war.. but I have searched high and low for a death record and the only one I can find possibly matching Arthur is in 1961.

Frederick John was a driver and garage worker, who lived in Essex and Ethel Rosina was a Loom Weaver, living in various places in London before marrying Leonard Harding and dying at an old age in Sussex. John Ernest unfortunately died the same quarter and year he was born. Seeing as his mother also died in 1917, i thought perhaps their deaths are related but I haven't looked into their death certificates. The last 3 entries you found were children of 2 of my GGGx Uncles.

With Regards to Frederick John and John Ernests baptisms, I have found this page on St Barbanus, Homerton Records (https://aim25.com/cgi-bin/vcdf/detail?coll_id=15153&inst_id=118&nv1=search&nv2=)..  would the reference code for those records be GB 0074 P79/BAN1?

I would like to thank you again, wholeheartedly, for your time, effort and research. It really is very much appreciated.

PS. Rensch is the surname my family have used, but since I've researched them, on multiple records for the exact same people (for multiple people throughout time).. the name has at multiple times been recorded as Reusch (and at other times Rensch). Even with fairly recent family members, such as my Great Uncle. Unfortunately there is no one now to ask why.. do you have any ideas (or any one else reading this?)

I have traced the line back to a Hermann Heinrich (or Henry) Conrad Rensch (or Reusch) who married Maria Anna Langvillie (surname difficult to read so may be incorrect) in 1771, Christ Church, Spitafields. Hermann was my 7x Great Grandad. Due to their names and that they were in another record members of a German Lutheran Church I believe they (or at least Hermann) were originally from Germany but have no other records of them (apart from the baptisms of their 2 children in Spitafields). If any one has any idea how I can find out more, that would be gladly appreciated.

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Hi Erin87, did you get the chance to take a look? (no worries if you didn't  :) )

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Hi Erin, that would be so great if you could take a look for me! I would appreciate it hugely, if you have the time. thank you!! :-)

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Oh thanks for correcting me about LMA, I updated the request to Islington instead of Hackney now. Thank you for taking the time to search for them, I've already found their births through GRO and workhouse records. Thanks :-)

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