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The Common Room / Re: 1881 Census Help - Lodger mystery!
« on: Tuesday 17 June 25 09:42 BST (UK)  »
It was around this time that workhouses started to board pauper children out, where possible, instead of insisting they stayed in the workhouse. While it is a little early for this, it may pay to investigate local workhouse records.

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The Common Room / Re: Liverpool: Beatles connections?
« on: Tuesday 10 June 25 09:00 BST (UK)  »
My junior school wasn't far from John's house. One of my classmates was dared to go and knock on John's door. She knocked, and was so scared she ran off, but it turned out there was no-one in!

That was 1965. A few years later, when Penny Lane came out, I was going to (secondary) school every day on a bus that passed Penny Lane!

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Northamptonshire Lookup Requests / Re: Sarah Lawrence 1783 Higham Ferrers
« on: Saturday 07 June 25 13:12 BST (UK)  »
And the NRO Catalogue lists
Copy of Release, 3 May 1798
(1) William Lawrence of Rushden and Esther his wife
to (2) John Worlidge & others
for a legacy of £60 charged on lands at Rushden (the estate of Thomas Richards)

Esther was born Esther Richards, daughter of Thomas & Jane of Rushden. Thomas, of Rushden, left a will when he died in 1797.

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Northamptonshire Lookup Requests / Re: Sarah Lawrence 1783 Higham Ferrers
« on: Saturday 07 June 25 12:01 BST (UK)  »
There are several other Lawrence baptisms in Rushden -

Elizabeth 1783, Thomas 1785, Elizabeth 1786, Esther 1786, John 1789.

Thomas died as a baby in 1785. There's a John died 1824 Higham Ferrers aged 31, who left a Will.

The 1783 Elizabeth was only entered in the PR as "(blank) d (blank) & (blank) Lawrence", with the names only in the BT. Could that be Sarah?

William & Esther were married in Rushden in 1777, he was of Newton Blossomville, Bucks, while she was of Rushden.

The Buckinghamshire Baptism Index on FindMyPast has a daughter Jane born 8 Jul 1778, bap 21 Dec 1778!


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The Common Room / Re: Ancestry Subscriptions
« on: Saturday 31 May 25 11:33 BST (UK)  »
Hi Jayandjay,

For just birth certificates you are better off using https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp
You can get English and Welsh birth certs from 1837 - 100 years ago, and death certs 1837 - 1954 digitally, at a cost of £3 each, delivered immediately to your computer. Irish ones are free at https://www.irishgenealogy.ie, and Scottish ones are on Scotlands People with a subscription.

Ancestry.co.uk can give you UK Censuses 1841 - 1921, the (redacted) 1939 Register, parish registers, gaol records, emigration records, poor law records, loads of stuff. Just not the actual birth, death or marriage certs. What you get on the Australian site, i dont know. or whether you would be better off with a World sub. Depends on what you are researching.

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Can confirm that the Northamptonshire Marriage Index has the same information.   

Unforfunately, the Ancestry images do not include the relevant page in the Thenford register - it goes from page 5 straight to page 7!

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Northamptonshire / Re: Place Name - Reading Help
« on: Thursday 15 May 25 08:13 BST (UK)  »
That is “of this parish”.

Where the tail of the p comes back across itself, it indicates missing letters - the equivalent of writing “p’ish” today.

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Cheshire / Re: Baptised twice??? Tarvin, Cheshire. ASTBURY, ASPEY, HASPEY
« on: Thursday 08 May 25 14:34 BST (UK)  »
I've seen it before, several times.

Either no-one could remember whether the infant had been baptised before,  so did it again to be sure, or the first time may have been a Private Baptism, although unmarked as such in the register, and the second time was being Received into the Church (again unmarked). Some vicars marked these occasions as what they were, others didn't.

Sometimes they were two infants, despite the lack of a burial - very small infants were sometimes buried with a.n.other adult, didn't have their own funeral, and may not have been recorded in the register.

The only thing to do is use the Census, eventual burial, or a wedding to provide you with an approximate date of birth. Otherwise, you're on your own.

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I don't think there is any one list.

I find the Towns and Parishes pages on Genuki useful, here is Northamptonshire's
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/NTH/parishes. I chose a part of the name that isn't so corruptible, and search the page for that.

For finding Civil Registration districts, there is https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/places/regindex3.pdf

And for getting down to hamlet or farm level, I've yet to beat the maps at the National Library of Scotland, the 1880's 25 inch maps can be layered with satelite images to tell you precisely where you are:

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16.0&lat=52.13255&lon=-0.99086&layers=168&b=ESRIWorld&o=58

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