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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help please with occupation
« on: Friday 04 April 25 20:26 BST (UK) »
Looks like first word could be 'Wright' then marine or mariner.
So a shipwright maybe?
So a shipwright maybe?
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Northumberland Lookup Requests / Re: Dale family of North Shields
« on: Friday 04 April 25 20:01 BST (UK) »
Ah - I've just found that William Mitcalfe, in his will, left a bequest to his daughter 'Dorothy Dale', so it seems we are related!
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Northumberland Lookup Requests / Re: Dale family of North Shields
« on: Friday 04 April 25 17:55 BST (UK) »
No info on Dales, but I'm descended from William Mitcalfe of Dockwray Square (1720-1806). His granddaughter Margaret Mitcalfe/Metcalfe married John Dunn, and their son Joseph Dunn married Elizabeth Weightman. I see you have Mitcalfes and Weightmans in your family - I think we might be distant cousins?
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Irish Protestant birth records
« on: Sunday 09 March 25 21:32 GMT (UK) »
Correction, THREE (POTENTIALLY FOUR) different people -
Mary Clarke, wife of Patrick Clark and daughter of:
Mary Caulfield (nee Tunney) and James Caulfield and the listed addressee for the census extract
Mary Rafferty, applicant for the census extract that was sent to Mary Caulfield's address
and
Mary Rafferty born C1850 listed on the census extract and who may be the applicant or could be a relative of the same name who emigrated to England and married Michael Prendergast.
And why does everyone have to be called Mary? My head hurts...
Mary Clarke, wife of Patrick Clark and daughter of:
Mary Caulfield (nee Tunney) and James Caulfield and the listed addressee for the census extract
Mary Rafferty, applicant for the census extract that was sent to Mary Caulfield's address
and
Mary Rafferty born C1850 listed on the census extract and who may be the applicant or could be a relative of the same name who emigrated to England and married Michael Prendergast.
And why does everyone have to be called Mary? My head hurts...
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Irish Protestant birth records
« on: Sunday 09 March 25 20:02 GMT (UK) »
I'm new to this so please forgive me if this is a daft question:
If Mary Clarke, wife of Patrick Clarke, is the daughter of Mary and James Caulfield, then who is the Mary Rafferty who applied for the copy of the census extract? Aren't they two different people?
If Mary Clarke, wife of Patrick Clarke, is the daughter of Mary and James Caulfield, then who is the Mary Rafferty who applied for the copy of the census extract? Aren't they two different people?
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Irish Protestant birth records
« on: Sunday 09 March 25 19:07 GMT (UK) »
Ah thank you for the correction! I think things get mistranscribed which gets confusing...
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Irish Protestant birth records
« on: Sunday 09 March 25 19:05 GMT (UK) »
This was the link that was posted https://www.churchofireland.org/cmsfiles/pdf/AboutUs/library/registers/ParishRegisters/PARISHREGISTERS.pdf
Confusingly when I click it from my computer it brings up a massive PDF but when I click it from my phone it brings up a single photocopied page with the birth entry for a Mary Rafferty.
The Mary Rafferty daughter of John Rafferty and Annie McNicholas possibly married and died in Ireland so it might not be mine (and i'm not sure where I got Annie as her mother's name - I know her father is definitely listed as John Rafferty on her marriage certificate to Michael Prendergast).
Also the birth record I found links up with an entry in Irish Catholic records which would make it a puzzle as to why she married in a C of E church....
Confusingly when I click it from my computer it brings up a massive PDF but when I click it from my phone it brings up a single photocopied page with the birth entry for a Mary Rafferty.
The Mary Rafferty daughter of John Rafferty and Annie McNicholas possibly married and died in Ireland so it might not be mine (and i'm not sure where I got Annie as her mother's name - I know her father is definitely listed as John Rafferty on her marriage certificate to Michael Prendergast).
Also the birth record I found links up with an entry in Irish Catholic records which would make it a puzzle as to why she married in a C of E church....
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Irish Protestant birth records
« on: Sunday 09 March 25 16:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi all
Thanks for your replies.
I don't think the posted birth record is correct as that Mary's parents are down as Patrick and Margaret and mine is the daughter of John and Ann/Anne/Annie.
I have now found an extract from an 1851 census that lists a Mary Rafferty age 1, daughter of John Rafferty and Annie (nee McNichols) in Drummasloveen, Mayo. This is as close a match as I've found, but I'm not sure if it's the right one.
The info I have is that she was born C1849 in Ireland - no clue as to where.
She may have been living in Liverpool with the Glove family as their servant on the 1871 census. However she also had a son George Prendergast that year so that may be a different Mary Rafferty.
My Mary may also have had a son Thomas (father unknown) in C1868.
She married Michael Prendergast in St Alban's C of E church in Bevington, Liverpool, on 21st Oct 1979 when she was 30 and subsequently had other children - Margaret Anna in 1880, John Joseph in 1884.
At the time of their marriage they were living at 24 Maddox St, Liverpool.
She may have died in 1900, buried in Ford Cemetery as Mary Prendergast but the age is wrong - 56 when my Mary would have been 61.
It's also possible that she died and was buried under an incorrect name as the names Pender, Pendergress and Pendergast have all cropped up.
Thanks for your replies.
I don't think the posted birth record is correct as that Mary's parents are down as Patrick and Margaret and mine is the daughter of John and Ann/Anne/Annie.
I have now found an extract from an 1851 census that lists a Mary Rafferty age 1, daughter of John Rafferty and Annie (nee McNichols) in Drummasloveen, Mayo. This is as close a match as I've found, but I'm not sure if it's the right one.
The info I have is that she was born C1849 in Ireland - no clue as to where.
She may have been living in Liverpool with the Glove family as their servant on the 1871 census. However she also had a son George Prendergast that year so that may be a different Mary Rafferty.
My Mary may also have had a son Thomas (father unknown) in C1868.
She married Michael Prendergast in St Alban's C of E church in Bevington, Liverpool, on 21st Oct 1979 when she was 30 and subsequently had other children - Margaret Anna in 1880, John Joseph in 1884.
At the time of their marriage they were living at 24 Maddox St, Liverpool.
She may have died in 1900, buried in Ford Cemetery as Mary Prendergast but the age is wrong - 56 when my Mary would have been 61.
It's also possible that she died and was buried under an incorrect name as the names Pender, Pendergress and Pendergast have all cropped up.
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Family History Beginners Board / Irish Protestant birth records
« on: Sunday 09 March 25 10:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi all - I'm trying to trace a Mary Rafferty, born c1848/1849, daughter of John and Ann/e Rafferty.
I can't find a good match in the Irish Catholic records and she married Michael Prendergast in Oct 1879 in a Protestant church in Liverpool despite him being a Catholic, so I'm thinking she may have been a Protestant.
Is there any way of searching Protestant/Church of Ireland records online, or do you have to go to Ireland?
I have no idea of where to start - no idea of where in Ireland she was born.
Any tips?
Thanks in advance
I can't find a good match in the Irish Catholic records and she married Michael Prendergast in Oct 1879 in a Protestant church in Liverpool despite him being a Catholic, so I'm thinking she may have been a Protestant.
Is there any way of searching Protestant/Church of Ireland records online, or do you have to go to Ireland?
I have no idea of where to start - no idea of where in Ireland she was born.
Any tips?
Thanks in advance