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Immigrants & Emigrants - General / Re: Alexandria, Egypt. Marriage between F E Wrench and Alexandra Mallia
« on: Sunday 10 July 16 18:09 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that. I'll update as soon as i get the information.
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Immigrants & Emigrants - General / Re: Alexandria, Egypt. Marriage between F E Wrench and Alexandra Mallia
« on: Sunday 10 July 16 17:46 BST (UK) »Hello JenB,
Can I ask where you looked on the GRO site to find the GRO Consular index for 1921-25 and found the reference "Alexandria 16, 204"?
I will try to contact the GRO to ask a couple of questions before I order a marriage certificate of my grandparents, Alexandra and Frank. On the application form it asks for a marriage date..not sure if 1922 or 1923. Will the above reference be sufficient, would you know?
Thanks so much, Kevin Wrench
Alternatively you could order it yourself from the GRO. The reference shown on the GRO Consular Index for 1921 - 1925 is Alexandria 16, 204. Please note that on the index the bride's christian name is Alexandra, not Alexandria.
There are more details about ordering an overseas/consular marriage certificate here
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/most_customers_want_to_know.asp#Overseas
I don't think the marriage would not necessarily have taken place at the Consulate. The marriage took place somewhere in Alexandria, and was registered by the British Consul. Hence the marriage is on what are known as the Consular Indexes.
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Immigrants & Emigrants - General / Re: Alexandria, Egypt. Marriage between F E Wrench and Alexandra Mallia
« on: Sunday 10 July 16 12:48 BST (UK) »I do think the marriage certificate should be your next move to see what additional information you can get about Alexandra.
Thank you, I will look into it.
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Immigrants & Emigrants - General / Re: Alexandria, Egypt. Marriage between F E Wrench and Alexandra Mallia
« on: Sunday 10 July 16 10:17 BST (UK) »
Wow, I've just returned to this after finishing a work deadline, to see that so much further investigation has been taking place!
Thank you all for that amazing work!
Trying to sift through the information as I know virtually nothing about my grandmother or her family. A maltese nationality might very well fit, as there are stories of her mother, my great grandmother being Italian and marrying a man from Malta, but it could be that she was British.. I have't taken it all in yet!
Kevin
Thank you all for that amazing work!
Trying to sift through the information as I know virtually nothing about my grandmother or her family. A maltese nationality might very well fit, as there are stories of her mother, my great grandmother being Italian and marrying a man from Malta, but it could be that she was British.. I have't taken it all in yet!
Kevin
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Immigrants & Emigrants - General / Re: Alexandria, Egypt. Marriage between F E Wrench and Alexandra Mallia
« on: Wednesday 29 June 16 10:12 BST (UK) »
What a speedy reply!
Yes indeed, I understand he was a 2nd Lieutenant , and also served as a Canadian Mountie, before returning to Egypt in 1917 as a driver. I've gathered so much information so quickly but now want to find more history about my grandmother, who I only knew as a very small child when she came to the UK with my father in the 40's/50's.
Yes indeed, I understand he was a 2nd Lieutenant , and also served as a Canadian Mountie, before returning to Egypt in 1917 as a driver. I've gathered so much information so quickly but now want to find more history about my grandmother, who I only knew as a very small child when she came to the UK with my father in the 40's/50's.
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Immigrants & Emigrants - General / Alexandria, Egypt. Marriage between F E Wrench and Alexandra Mallia
« on: Wednesday 29 June 16 10:00 BST (UK) »
Hello there, am new to this, but have found out more in the last couple of days than in the last few decades, and come across new family members.. Thank you so much. I have got as far as discovering the names and dates and details of my grandfather F. E Wrench, and his second wife Alexandria Mallia. They were married in Alexandria in the 1920s and my father N.F. E Wrench was the result. I am now trying to find more specific details about Alexandra Mallia. As far as vague family knowledge goes, she was of Italian, (possibly Maltese) descent, and probably living in the Italian Enclave in Alexandria at that time. Documents so far relating to F E Wrench refer to her as "local"...how would I find out more? Any pointers would be very welcome. Thank you in advance! Kevin
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England / Re: 2nd Lieutenant Frank Edward Wrench, Alice Emma Wrench (Bethell)
« on: Tuesday 28 June 16 15:42 BST (UK) »
Hoping that I will at last get to know more about my grandfather Frank Edward, and my father Norman Frank Edward, and of course , the Alexandria/ Italian connections. Hope we speak soon, Best, Kevin Wrench
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England / Re: 2nd Lieutenant Frank Edward Wrench, Alice Emma Wrench (Bethell)
« on: Tuesday 28 June 16 15:37 BST (UK) »
How have you come to be researching this? Are we perhaps related? Kevin Wrench
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England / Re: 2nd Lieutenant Frank Edward Wrench, Alice Emma Wrench (Bethell)
« on: Tuesday 28 June 16 14:41 BST (UK) »
Hello there,
I was just doing a google search about my late father, Norman Frank Edward Wrench, and instantly hit on you post via Google. All details seem to fit. He was born in Alexandria in 1923? to an Italian/Maltese woman. My father left when I was very young, and started his third family, so I am amazed and astonished to discover more details. Things I have always known/half known, were the Canadian, Maltese and Alexandria and Italian connections, but not really how they fitted together. There is also talk of an Italian Countess in Lucca, Tuscany. My grandmother apparently lived in the Italian enclave in Alexandria, where she must have met my grandfather, who I never knew, but where my father, Norman Frank Edward was born
Can we talk further about this? I would love to learn more.
Many thanks, Kevin Martin Wrench
I was just doing a google search about my late father, Norman Frank Edward Wrench, and instantly hit on you post via Google. All details seem to fit. He was born in Alexandria in 1923? to an Italian/Maltese woman. My father left when I was very young, and started his third family, so I am amazed and astonished to discover more details. Things I have always known/half known, were the Canadian, Maltese and Alexandria and Italian connections, but not really how they fitted together. There is also talk of an Italian Countess in Lucca, Tuscany. My grandmother apparently lived in the Italian enclave in Alexandria, where she must have met my grandfather, who I never knew, but where my father, Norman Frank Edward was born
Can we talk further about this? I would love to learn more.
Many thanks, Kevin Martin Wrench
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