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Northumberland Lookup Requests / Re: James Steele (b. 1827) in Berwick-on-Tweed
« on: Wednesday 19 February 25 09:53 GMT (UK)  »
Do you have his marriage as that should name his father.  Sorry, I see you are looking for that.

How do you know that his wife was Mary Young

Gravestone, marriage & death records (for children) give Mary Young as wife’s name.

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Northumberland Lookup Requests / James Steele (b. 1827) in Berwick-on-Tweed
« on: Wednesday 19 February 25 08:33 GMT (UK)  »
My ancestor James Steele emigrated to Ontario, Canada in the late 1850s. A newspaper article lists his place-of-origin as Berwick-on-Tweed. He was a blacksmith working on the railroads.
http://www.glanbrookheritage.ca/deathsjanjune1897.htm

Looking around in census data for that area of England between 1820-1860 (before James emigrated to Canada), the 1851 England Census for the Twizel district has a James Steel listed as an Apprentice at the Smithy. Seems like a possible lead: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG6K-TBQ?lang=en

Likely this is the same individual born in Norham here -> https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/sources/L42V-XCD

However this other individual looks promising https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/L8WQ-L1G -> his mother, Jessie Martin, could be the namesake for my James Steele's daughter, my 2ndgg Jessie M. Steele (not clear what the M. stands for, could be Martin if Jessie Martin was her grandmother).

His wife was Mary Young, also born ca. 1827 in England/Scotland.
Children (approximate birthdates and accurate marriage dates):
Jane Steele - b. 1853 in England (m. 1873  Benson Chrysler)
Jessie M Steele - b. 1855 in Canada (m. 1871 James Mungo Main)
Mary "Mamie" Steele - b. 1857 (m. 1881 James Delmer Mills)
Eliza Steele - b. 1859 (m. 1882 Frederick Elias MacDonald)
James Steele - b. 1864 (m. 1888 Jane Ellen Patrick)
Elizabeth "Lizzie" Steele - b. 1868 (m. 1889 Walter Dixon Jackson)
Isabella Steele - b. 1872 (m. 1889 to John Hamilton Terryberry)

Would love to find info on James & Mary's marriage, and know at least their parents' names to keep tracing these lines as I've been stuck for awhile. Thank you!

(previous thread with more info on this family once in Canada at this link:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=783557.msg7631668#msg7631668)

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Scotland / Re: James Steele (1827-1897) + Mary Young (1827-1899)
« on: Wednesday 19 February 25 08:16 GMT (UK)  »
New angle on this old brick wall that I'm still trying to break through: I found a local newspaper source for the death of James Steele in Ontario that indicates he was from Berwick-on-Tweed in Northumberland. I recognize that this is one of those borderlands that can account for confused place-of-origin in various records.
http://www.glanbrookheritage.ca/deathsjanjune1897.htm

Going to post over on the Northumberland section - if anyone can make further progress based on this new info, please reply there or here.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=889570.new#new

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United States of America / Re: ONONDAGA, NY - Catherine Robinson (1822-1907)
« on: Thursday 18 January 24 06:42 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you, both good suggestions.

I haven’t found a will, but that could definitely open things up. For some reason - maybe because the name is so common - it’s hard to narrow down anything for Charles Robinson.

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England / Re: James Steele (1827-1897) + Mary Young (1827-1899)
« on: Thursday 18 January 24 06:37 GMT (UK)  »
I have a lead on this!

I came across a random website with a variant obituary for James Steele, and it indicates that he emigrated from Berwick-on-Tweed. That explains all the English/Scottish confusion! Right on the border, the northernmost part of England.

I’m going to pursue this thread, but if anyone has recommendations (or thoughts on the COE vs Presb question) please reply.

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England / Re: James Steele (1827-1897) + Mary Young (1827-1899)
« on: Saturday 13 January 24 15:43 GMT (UK)  »
I just spent awhile going through old newspapers and more conflicting information that suggests Scottish or English origin for this family.

Anyone with experience in Ontario UK immigrants have advice on why there would be this ping-pong of listing different origins? Could it have to do with bringing two families together? Because eventually my Steele ancestor (whose parents may have been Church of England) married into a staunchly Presbyterian family.

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United States of America / Re: ONONDAGA, NY - Catherine Robinson (1822-1907)
« on: Saturday 13 January 24 15:39 GMT (UK)  »
Any new users have ideas here? None of my searching has yielded results, this is one of my longest-standing brick walls.

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Europe / Re: BAVARIA: John Joseph Hipelius b. 1811 Sulzdorf
« on: Thursday 26 April 18 16:47 BST (UK)  »
According to census and birth records, this Carl's (b. 1826) wife was Barbara Rink.
Frederick's wife was Johanna Heinz.
Balthasar's wife was Margaret Deppisch (married in Wüzburg in 1864).
They were all married before emigrating.

Carl Hipelius von Bayerd, who married Aloisia Saettele, was born in Aug 1791 in Nordheim (most likely Nordheim am Main, where there are other documented Hipelius individuals). His parents were Joseph Hipelius von Bayerd Hipelius and Rosalie Abt. It's possible he could be an uncle or cousin of Joseph Hipelius (b.1811 in Stadlauringen, parents Felix Hipelius and Barbara Göpfert).

Interesting to note the "von Bayerd".  I've tried to look into it, and some sites indicate this connects the family to Germany nobility. I haven't been able to find the link between this branch and the other Hipelius individuals I've been tracking (a separate task - or maybe not? - from linking all the Hipelius emigrants to the USA).

Aliosia's (b. 1801) parents were, according to the birth and marriage records, Konrad Seattle and Theresia Sorg.


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United States of America / Re: ONONDAGA, NY - Catherine Robinson (1822-1907)
« on: Saturday 21 April 18 05:28 BST (UK)  »
Curious if anyone with familiarity in upstate/NW NY records has advice on how to proceed here - is it possible that Onondaga County may have something? Again, since the McHuron's were pioneers in the area, there is a significant amount written about them. The McHuron + Robinson marriage was in 1845, so it's not inconceivable that a marriage record exists, right?

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