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The Lighter Side / Re: Had a baby in her fifties??
« on: Thursday 29 September 16 16:28 BST (UK)  »
i was interested in this story ;tried looking for ebenezer in 1911 census
didnt find him

found Caleb  in Chiddingly ....what are the sisters married names ?

Hi everyone,

Thanks for the responses.

I've looked at the 1911 census. I guess that some of those children were, indeed, grandchildren.

Someone asked for the married names of the sisters,

Martha married John Roser in 1865,

I'm yet to find a husband for Lucy,

Elizabeth married Job Guy in 1868,

Esther married in in 1896 but am unsure which man is her husband,

I'm yet to find a husband for Ann,

I'm yet to find a husband for Mary,

and Bessie married Frederick Rayner in 1889.

Ebenezer can be found living with his wife Caroline Boniface on the 1911 census.



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The Lighter Side / Re: Had a baby in her fifties??
« on: Wednesday 28 September 16 18:23 BST (UK)  »
Do you have Ebenezer's birth certificate [which will give mother] - or baptism?

Josey

ADDED:
Births Sep 1878 
TOMSETT    Ebenezer William        Hailsham    2b   98

Unfortunately I don't, I think I'll buy it though

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The Lighter Side / Re: Had a baby in her fifties??
« on: Wednesday 28 September 16 18:20 BST (UK)  »
Hello

Can't post the details but can I suggest that you look for Ann and William in the 1911 census and see how many years married and how many children they have had and how many are still alive.   It may help in your puzzle - they are very easily found.

Nesta

I agree with Nesta, look at 1911 if you can.  Then start looking into the daughters,   ;D


1911 England Census removed by moderator


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I found that one of my great grandfathers was illegitimate when I got his marriage certificate. It said so in the place where fathers name would be.

Hi guys,

I have the marriage certificate and apparently John's father was also called John Horton and was a valet  ???

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The Lighter Side / Had a baby in her fifties??
« on: Wednesday 28 September 16 15:02 BST (UK)  »
I've been researching my fourth great grandma, Ann, who was born in 1827 in Sussex.

According to the census records, she and her husband William Tompsett had 13 children together in the space of 33 years. They are as follows,

Martha Tomsett, born 1846

Lucy Tomsett, born 1848

Elizabeth Tomsett, born 1849

William Tomsett, born 1849

John Tompsett, born 1854

George Tomsett, born 1857

Edward Tomsett, born 1860

Caleb Tomsett, born 1861

Esther Tomsett, born 1863

Mary A Tomsett, born 1866

Ann Tomsett, born 1868

Bessie Tompsett, born 1869


Then, ten years later, we have:

Ebenezer Tompsett, born 1879, when Ann would have been around 52  ???

Is this really feasible? I understand that women can and do have children later on in life, but was this common before the days of modern medical science? And why would there be a ten year gap between the births of Bessie and Ebenezer?

I apologise for sounding ignorant, but I feel like something is off somewhere here?  ???

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Does this typically indicate illiteracy on the part of the person signing?

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I may be way off the mark here but things do not seem to add up.

There is a previous post by the OP here:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=755335.msg6048149#msg6048149

Then there is this marriage:

Name:   John Thomas Horton
Registration Year:   1891
Registration Quarter:   Apr-May-Jun
Registration district:   Totnes
Parishes for this Registration District:   View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County:   Devon
Volume:   5b
Page:   341
Records on Page:   Name
Sarah Jane Campin
Herbert William Dawe
John Thomas Horton
Susan Provo

These records:


UK, Apprentices Indentured in Merchant Navy, 1824-1910
SCHOOLS, DIRECTORIES & CHURCH HISTORIES
NAME:    John Thomas Horton
BIRTH:    abt 1862 - Brixham
OTHER:    24 Feb 1876 - Dartmouth
   
UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927
IMMIGRATION & TRAVEL
NAME:    John Thomas Horton
BIRTH:    1863 - Brixham
CIVIL:    23 Sep 1897 – Brixham
(This is a second mate’s certificate for foreign going vessels)

1901 Census:

Burton Street, Brixham

John Horton, Head, M, 38, Mariner 2nd Mate Seas, Brixham, Devon
Fanny Horton, Wife, M, 38, Dartmouth, Devon
John T Horton, Son, 8, Brixham, Devon
Olive Horton, Daur, 5, Brixham, Devon
Ida Horton, Daur, 3, Brixham, Devon
George Horton, Son, 3, Brixham Devon

The 1911 Census shows the same family and indicates that John and Fanny had been married for 20 years.

Gail

Hi, sorry for the confusion, Susan Frances Provo was later known as Frances Susan Provo and then when married she was known as Fanny Horton. I know that John was definitely in the marines or the navy, confusingly his son with Frances/Fanny was also called John and was also in the Navy

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The point being..... have you searched non-conformist baptisms?  (This might not be your chap though, because if he was 77 yrs in 1940 he would not have been born around 1876.)

I thought census information indicated birth around 1862/3

Ooops. I had the apprentice docs year [1876] in my mind.   :-[

So this non-conformist burial could actually be the correct chap!!

Sorry everyone, I'm just reading all of the comments, please bear with me

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The Common Room / Re: Provo family of Dartmouth
« on: Friday 16 September 16 22:52 BST (UK)  »
There's one Louisa Provo in the 1881 census living in Tottenham.

The family is:
Leonara Wood  Widow Age 51 b. Newton Abbot, Devon
Louise Provo Widow Mother age 22 b. Ireland (further census entries say Dublin)
Gladys N Provo Daughter age 2 b. Enfield, Middlesex

You don't give any dates - is this the right time frame?

Pheno


Thank you, I think the time frame would be around 1850????

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