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Carlow / Re: Cloneighgal ?
« on: Wednesday 16 July 25 12:36 BST (UK)  »
Thank you to the three who responded. The Clynches settled on farm near a town that came to be known as Lourdes Iowa. John's headstone is at Reilly Ridge Iowa which was a very Irish community. The last male bearer of the name, though my age, died a decade ago. It was John's marker that prompted me to view the sacramental records of Clonegal where I found the marriage of my Irish immigrant ancestors, John Clynch and Ellen  Malone-1846. Rootschat community has been a godsend, thank you.

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Carlow / Cloneighgal ?
« on: Tuesday 15 July 25 16:16 BST (UK)  »
Patrick Clynch and Mary Byrne married and gave birth to at least five children. Four of them emigrated to Iowa, USA in 1850's. One son, John, had engraved on his headstone, "born Parish of Cloneighgal County Carlow Ireland May 24 1823. He is the only family member who left a lasting link to his home place. This is an unusual spelling, CLONEIGHGAL; any thoughts on this spelling of what I perceive to be current parish of Clonegal. John's brother, William, baptism (1820) is found in the Bagenalstown records. The family must have moved about.

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Ireland / Re: How common for a priest to be native to his parish?
« on: Wednesday 18 June 25 15:28 BST (UK)  »
This topic is of interest to me. Jumping in mid-stream, I may be misunderstanding the context. I would like to find seminary records for Thomes Clinch who studied at Salamanca Spain c.1780's. I served as a Catholic priest for thirty years. Burse was a term often used by my elderly Bishop in 1980's. Certainly not a bank record, but was a protected find for designated purpose. Furlong's book Fr. John Mirphy, Boolavogue states that Irish students were ordained prior to trvel to the Continent for theology studies. Though Furlong never used the term, there was in canon law a category of Priest Simplex. This denotes a man ordained and permitted to say Mass, but restricted from other duties. The burse, managed by the bishop, held funds offered for Mass intentions, typically for the deceased. This burse provided financing for room and board.
Have you encountered records for Diocese of Ferns / Irish College at Salamanca?

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Wexford / Re: Harvey and Catherine Hay of Ballymurn 1760
« on: Sunday 25 February 24 05:24 GMT (UK)  »
Patrick, Amazing news, thank you. With the passing of Sweetman who was credited as most informed biographer of Hay family, I figured I had missed out on learning anything of Hannah's origins. Your information confirms my hunch. If only records were more complete, what are the chances that a descendant of Edward would be viewing this site?

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Carlow / Re: Bagnalstown Patt Clynch and Mary Byrne
« on: Friday 23 February 24 22:17 GMT (UK)  »
Kim,
thank ou for digging through other sources. There are many Clinches in Dublin area and my digging shows no connection with the Wexford/Carlow Clinch/Glynch/Clynch group from which I descend. I add the note that one of the four siblings who migrate to NE Iowa by 1850, John, had inscribed on his headstone at the Iowa cemetery,"born in Cloneighal". Patt and Mary may have moved around a bit. the poor quality ink used in nineteenth century by the PP leaves large chucnks of the record illegible, sadly. The obituary records from Iowa state Bagnalstown as birth place.
KC

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Wexford / Re: Harvey and Catherine Hay of Ballymurn 1760
« on: Friday 23 February 24 21:58 GMT (UK)  »
RE: Wexflyer's question. The Sweetman book was delivered, read and returned. three interesting points. In the appendix, Edward Hay's census report for Killmallick shows two families with slightly different spellings. Hannah could be part those families. second: the fact that a micro-film image of the parish marriage records dating to 1795/6 exists while the NLI digitalized records of baptism and marriage start with 1833. Where is the micro-film record held? The snip of the 1795/6 marriage record was sent to me by a person who had worked on the Kilmallick cemetery book. Thirdly: Sweetman states that local oral traditon puts the Ballinkeele House owner at the Battle of the Boyne. Per Anthony Ryan's work (1938-1949), my family's history also goes back to fighting with Sarsfield at the Battle of the Boyne, suggesting possible connection with the Hays of Ballinkeele, and possible draw for Fr. Thomas Clinch's father's move from Kilrush Parish to Clonmore Lower/ Ballyhuskard area.
RE: Mr. Pontet's remark. I do not have access to Ancestry.com but can go over to the LDS center possibly and attempt to reach you.
KC

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Carlow / Re: Bagnalstown Patt Clynch and Mary Byrne
« on: Monday 12 December 22 15:57 GMT (UK)  »
Noland01, thank you. The Iowa records state James was born at Btown and state William was born Carlow with no distinction of town/county. William's entry in NLI is clear, so finding him gives some evidence of at least two siblings baptized at Btown. The Griffiths record is news for me, thank you. Was the mention Byrne the eye catcher for you?

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Carlow / Bagnalstown Patt Clynch and Mary Byrne
« on: Thursday 08 December 22 03:45 GMT (UK)  »
Recently learned names of parents who remained in Carlow County: Patrick Clynch and Mary Byrne. four of their children settled in northeast Iowa USA in 1850's. Their son William, the oldest of the emigres, was baptized 20 August, 1820 at Catholic Parish at Bagenalstown. The NLI microfilm is impossible to read in at least half the surface area. Cannot spot the other three siblings: Mary, John, and James, the youngest of the four, is reportedly born in 1826. According to famly lore another sibling remained in Ireland as did the parents. Is there a pattern of say the oldest child remaining with the parents? perhaps the youngest? Or is such a matter entirely dependent on individual circumsatances? Patt seems to have wandered farther west than any of his kin. Is there any historic feature that attracted persons to the Bagnalstown area? The next closest relative would have lived at Cranemore townland west of Bunclody, the others at Kilrush in Wexford. i suppose there are countless persons with the name, Mary Byrne, but now that i know her name, thought i would include her.
 

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Wexford / Re: Roadside memorial Fr. Thomas Clinch
« on: Wednesday 06 April 22 18:12 BST (UK)  »
Thank you to Kiltaglassan and Heywood, marking as topic completed. Spotted the memorial on SE side of M11.

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