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Dublin / Re: Fenian Joe Pooles siblings
« on: Saturday 03 April 21 19:29 BST (UK)  »
William Lamie, full name Charles William St. Clair Lamie, along with his wife Sophia(nee Poole) changed their surname to Fenning after Joe's hanging.  In 1891 Sophia is found living in Battersea, Surrey with 4 of her children.  She is a widow.  William Fenning/Lamie had died 6 March 1891 Registered in Wandsworth, Surrey.
Death:6 March 1891, 365 York Road, Wandsworth, Charles William Fenning,  43 years, General Dealer, Bronchitis, Pneumonia, Asthma 22 years.  Last attack of pneumonia 10 days. S. Fenning, widow of deceased present at the death 365 York Road, Wandsworth.
Sophia married John Rowbottom in 1902, Wandsworth and in 1911 they are living at 72 Shillinton Street, Battersea.  Sophia Rowbottom died at the age of 61 in 1918, Wandsworth.

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Dublin / Re: Fenian Joe Pooles siblings
« on: Tuesday 29 May 18 21:55 BST (UK)  »
A lot of people have wondered what happened to William Lamie and his wife Sophia Poole.  His full name was Charles William St. Clair Lamie.  He disappeared after the Joe Poole murder trial.  Well some months ago, after a lot of searching, I located him in England and he had changed his name to Fenning.  Sophia's mother's maiden name was Fannin so I think William and Sophia used that with a little change.  In 1891 Sophia Fenning, 36, Wardrobe dealer,  is a widow living at 365 York Road, Wandsworth, Surrey with her children Mary Jane, Frederick, William and Elizabeth.  Charles William Lamie/Fenning died 6 March 1891, 43 years old, a general dealer, of bronchitis, pneumonia, asthma 22 years.  His last attack of pneumonia was 10 days before his death.  Sophia Fenning of 365 York Road was present at his death.  In 1901 Sophia is found living at 59 Doddington Grove, Battersea in the home of her daughter Sarah and her husband, John H. Easton, and their children.  Also in the home is Margaret Fenning, 12, born in Lambeth,  another child of William and Sophia. 

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Ireland / Re: GPO Headquarters Battalion Women 1916
« on: Thursday 29 September 16 17:45 BST (UK)  »
As a descendant of Christopher Poole, Patrick Poole, Vincent Poole and John Poole who were all members of the IRA I am interested to know whether any of the wives were involved with the movement.  Christopher Poole's son, Christopher, married a Mary O'Reilly so I wonder if there is more information on Mary O'Reilly.

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Dublin / Re: Fenian Joe Pooles siblings
« on: Friday 23 September 16 00:32 BST (UK)  »
OK, .....thank you.  I have Edward Michael Poole in our Poole family...his son and his son's children.  I have communicated with a couple of them. 

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Dublin / Re: Fenian Joe Pooles siblings
« on: Thursday 22 September 16 16:09 BST (UK)  »
Grizzly1, I don't know who your friend is that you are researching the Poole family for but I have a facebook site Poole Family Research for sharing info about our Poole ancestors.  Your friend may be interested in joining the group.

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Dublin / Re: Fenian Joe Pooles siblings
« on: Friday 06 May 16 16:06 BST (UK)  »
From Dathai
William Lammey and Elizabeth Frances Bagnall
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/0626c20430641
terribly blurred
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000639782#page/13/mode/1up

Elizabeth Sophia Lammy born 28 Jan 1879 at 4 South King St ,civil index as Elizabeth Frances Lamie
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633497#page/87/mode/1up
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/3696350248735

Good info Dathai............I would suggest then that the Elizabeth with daughter Elizabeth in the 1901 and 1911 census at King Street is not our Elizabeth.   
William & Sophia Lamie's(Poole) daughter Elizabeth was born 23 April 1881 and baptised 9 May 1881.  Back to square one, eh?    I think they had 6 children.  Should be able to find one of them.

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Dublin / Re: Fenian Joe Pooles siblings
« on: Thursday 05 May 16 22:19 BST (UK)  »
Grizzly1    There is a baptism of a Frederick Poole of Castle Street at St. Werburgh, Dublin December 1773 son of Frederick Poole and Elizabeth.  If our Poole family followed traditional naming patterns then our Frederick of 1808 may be the son of this Frederick and grandson of Frederick and Elizabeth.

If he was a master tailor he would be a freeman of the city and lists of freeman are in the Dublin City Archives.   I don't know what info is documented when they become a freeman but it may give some family info.   If you are in Dublin maybe a trip to the Archives would be worthwhile.  I would do it but I'm a long, long way from there.

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Dublin / Re: Fenian Joe Pooles siblings
« on: Thursday 05 May 16 21:23 BST (UK)  »
Grizzly1   It seems I have all the same info as you on the Pooles except for the William Lamie which I will research as it is very interesting.   
I have shared all my extensive Poole research with just about all the Pooles in Dublin so there is a great deal of it floating around.
As far as old Frederick's father's name goes I do know in Ireland there was traditionally a very strong naming pattern for the eldest children born into a family.  The eldest son would be named after his paternal grandfather and the second son after his maternal grandfather, the third son after his father.
If this were the case with our Pooles then old Frederick's father would also have been Frederick........and Maria Drake's father would have been Edward.   
Their second son, Edward, is my gr gr grandfather.
Thanks for the info you have shared.

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Dublin / Re: Fenian Joe Pooles siblings
« on: Thursday 05 May 16 16:23 BST (UK)  »
Grizzly1......I would be very interested to know who you have going back to mid 1700's.  I can only prove to Frederick William Nassau Poole of abt 1803.
Also, very interesting comments re William Lamie and his whereabouts.  Where can that info be found?
I haven't read that Joe forgave Lamie but in Joe's last letter written while in prison he wrote "I forgive all those who have injured me and I hope no friends of mine will ever interfere with them in any way.  Leave them to the Almighty, it is best".   So I guess he included Lamie in this forgiveness.

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