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United States of America / Re: Information from a train accident
« on: Friday 20 June 25 01:28 BST (UK)  »
Thank you!

I also wonder if there may have been a lawsuit or anything given the jury verdict. Not sure how that all works.

I also found a Jennie Dyer about the right age married a George Mullin in June of 1887, however she is mentioned here in September of the same year as Jennie Dyer so I imagine that must be a different person?

There was also a sister Bridget born in 1867. We don't know who it was who died before John Towers married Sarah Dyer.

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United States of America / Information from a train accident
« on: Thursday 19 June 25 22:07 BST (UK)  »
Hello,

My third great grandmother Mary McDonald Dyer of Scotland  circa 1842 died in Chicago, Illinois in 1887 when she was hit by a passenger car. I am attaching an image of the Coroner's report which also mentions her daughter the top witness Jennie Dyer's residence 2510 Butterfield.
It mentions that she was struck by Passenger Engine no 81 at a crossing at 26th Street. It appears the jury concluded that if the train was moving at ordinance speed the accident would have been avoided. I haven't had any luck finding anything from any newspapers.

There is also a story that my second great grandmother's brother in law John Towers was supposed to marry another sister, but that she got kicked in the head by a horse. John then married Sarah Dyer. Jennie who also went by Mary Jane in the 1871 or 1881 Canada census, one she was Jeanne, but is referenced as Jennie here. She is one whose fate is as of now unknown.

Another sister was Rose/Rosanna Dyer born in Port Dalhousie, Ontario 1864 who married Richard Henry Lear. I suspect she died prior to him marrying again in 1887. I believe she likely died in Chicago unless they divorced, but I haven't found anything.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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I've managed to do a lot more research and made it to the library to view some of the baptisms.

The baptism for the eldest daughter Ellen Coughlin 1854-bef 1855 had a sponsor Daniel Coughlin! I ended up sorting out two particular Daniel Coughlins. One appears to have arrived in 1867 according to the 1900 census. His wife was a Mary Desmond as I found through baptisms and a death notice. Some people in this family mixed her up with the other Daniel Coughlin's wife Mary Mahoney.
I imagine the Daniel Coughlin living by Bridget in 1870 was a sibling of her husband Timothy.

The other was a Captain Daniel Coughlin who passed in 1915. Years ago I noticed an Elizabeth Brown with a father Dennis Coughlin was in the 1855 census very close by my Charles Coughlin.
Her death in 1905 indicated she was survived by Capt Dan Coughlin and Mrs. Ellen Collins. I found Ellen was a spouse of a Jeremiah Collins. They ended up in Little Valley, Cattaraugus County. One of their daughters Johannah was Hannah V Collins in the 1900 census niece of Daniel Coughlin. Daniel is supposed to have arrived in 1849. I also found Ellen was Nellie Collins in the 1900 census. 1850 arrival. Nothing of her later than that yet.

Aggravating that I can't find anything concrete linking Charles to anyone directly. Haha.

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Scratch that on Richard Peer. I found a baptism sponsor of one of my Coughlins a Hugh Cunningham married to a Mary Baisley came from Goleen, West Schull. Not sure if there is a relation, but that was very interesting they came from there.

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I found images I took some years ago when I went to the Buffalo library. One of a baptism of an Ellen Coughlin with parents listed as Timothy Coughlin and Bridget Pier. The sponsors are William Pier and Mary Anne Callahan.

Have a picture of a baptism of Mariah Coughlin of Timothy Coughlin and Bridget Danahy in 1854 was at the top of the page. Sponsors are Jer Collins and Ellen Danahy.

From what I recall there weren't many marriages or deaths to be found in those particular records for those years.

I found a lot of information on William Pier in particular. He had what I suspect is a sister Elizabeth married to a Cornelius Mehigan. They can be found close in the earliest census records I found for them in 1860. Through a death notice of Catharine Pier Kelly, she is her daughter, but I don't suspect she married a Pier as her name is listed in baptisms as Pier. I think they'd still use her maiden name and they lived very close to William Pier born between 1815-1825.

Interestingly enough there that William Pier had a son Richard Pier in the 1855 census. There is a Richard Pier in the 1880 census who changed to Peer later on who appears to have came from West Schull.


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for Richard Peer of Buffalo NY
died 29 May 1912
his obituary: Peer - In this city, May 29th, Richard, husband of Mary Peer and brother of Michael Peer of Erie, PA.


This stuff comes from ancestry's hints. It looks like it hangs together, but I didn't look at it thoroughly.

They say his wife Mary was first married to a John Coughlin who died 1877 in Buffalo. Daniel, John, and Ellen (in the household as Pier in 1880) are all said to be John Coughlin's children and are listed as such in 1892. Daniel's SS information says his parents were John Coughlin and Mary Leary.

Mary Leary is said to be this person:

Mary Leary, baptized Schull West Parish 27 March 1844, father's first name is missing
mother: Nelly Mahoney. one of the witnesses is a Coughlin
https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/61039/records/5807452

That is fascinating! John Coughlin the Alderman never married or had any children, but this is all incredibly interesting regardless. Perhaps we might be dealing with two families that commonly intermarried with each other?

I have that with my Gardinier/Willick/Vickerd families. My great grandparents were Earl Gardinier and Ruth Vickerd. Ruth's cousin married Earl's sister! Multiple other close relatives married other members of the same family so we have loads of double cousins and double second cousins. Haha. I'm guessing this was probably more common the further you go back in time.

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I think that must be a different Dennis. I found this one who worked for Danahy Packing and was active in Democratic circles. The age and time spent in Buffalo work out also. You'd have to find his wife and children.

obit March 9, 1925 . Died March 8

How would it be a different Dennis if the obituary literally mentions him being survived by a sister named Mrs Bridget Coughlin? It was also in Buffalo. Thank you

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Matthew Danahy died November 20, 1910

Thank you! They must be different members of that family or unrelated. I was looking through city directories and found there were a couple of them at one point. Thank you again for everything!

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The obituaries of both Matthew and Michael Danahy said they arrived in Buffalo in 1849. They ran a meat packing business, Danahy Packing. I imagine you have that by now. One of the earlier records gave "cattle" as one of their occupations, I don't remember which.

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Did either of them die after 1904?
I found an obituary for Bridget's brother Dennis Danahy in 1904. Mentions he is survived by two brothers John and Timothy Danahy and a sister Mrs. Bridget Coughlin. I'm going to try to get his death record compared with Bridget's! Fingers crossed

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