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Inverness / Re: MacDonalds from Skye to London?
« on: Tuesday 29 March 16 00:30 BST (UK)  »
Here's a salutary lesson on how easily one can get fooled. I've been searching the 1881 and 1891 census records, trying to find Henry John Thomas Macdonald and Maria Hurle in London with Macdonald and/or McDonald as the surname. No joy.

Would you believe it, I've found them with Mackdonald as the surname. With all of the youngest children still at home.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK6R-8CFG

Is this a common thing with the English getting confused about how to spell Scottish surnames?

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Inverness / Re: MacDonalds from Skye to London?
« on: Monday 28 March 16 11:51 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Rosinish on Sunday 27 March 16 23:59 BST (UK)
It's father John & Eleanor who are elusive & most needed  ;D

Annie

Yes, it's frustrating. I've found some details on the marriage between Henry Thomas and Eliza Ann Hurle, but it doesn't have any details of the parents.

Is that typical for the era?




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Inverness / Re: MacDonalds from Skye to London?
« on: Monday 28 March 16 00:16 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Rosinish on Sunday 27 March 16 23:43 BST (UK)
1861

12, Brewer Street North, Clerkenwell, London, England
...
Annie

Nice to have it confirmed, thanks.
Added: http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Macdonald-2284

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Inverness / Re: MacDonalds from Skye to London?
« on: Sunday 27 March 16 23:29 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Rosinish on Sunday 27 March 16 22:33 BST (UK)
I should have added, the name John MacDonald/McDonald in Scotland with no specifics & only a possible for a yr of birth would be a "needle in a haystack" sadly as John was a very common name.

Annie

Yes, the number of "John Macdonald"s is doing my head in.

For example, this one from the 1861 census:
Name    John Macdonald
Wife = Sophia Macdonald
Birth Year (Estimated)   1816
Birthplace   Scotland
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2MG-C3LN

That doesn't seem to be(?) the same strand of Macdonalds I'm looking for.

Except, just to confuse me, the 1861 census says he's living in Ely Place, Lambeth. Which just happens to be the same street where, according to the 1881 census, my Maria Frances (Hurle) Macdonald and her son Robert were also living.

What are the odds of that happening?
But I can find no connection between the two branches.
It's hurting my head.  ???

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Inverness / Re: MacDonalds from Skye to London?
« on: Sunday 27 March 16 22:19 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Rosinish on Sunday 27 March 16 20:24 BST (UK)
Another birth around the same time...
Caroline Macdonald
B 05 Jul 1803 Holborn, Middlesex
Father John Macdonald
Mother Eleanor Macdonald

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FWNS-655

Do ANY of the forenames of the females feature further down the line?

Sometimes a clue to descent.

Annie

Sadly, no.
The female names in the next two generations are permutations of
Eliza, Maria, Ann, Emily, Sarah, Lydia ,Elizabeth and Annie.

I might be clutching at straws looking at those?
Father John Macdonald
Mother Eleanor Macdonald

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Inverness / Re: MacDonalds from Skye to London?
« on: Sunday 27 March 16 22:13 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Rosinish on Sunday 27 March 16 20:38 BST (UK)
Is this your tree?

http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Macdonald-2284

Annie

Indeed it is :-)

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Inverness / Re: MacDonalds from Skye to London?
« on: Sunday 27 March 16 22:12 BST (UK)  »
Re Occupation    Private Soldier Royal Hospital Chelsea

There is a family legend about one of the Henry Macdonalds having served in the Black Watch Regiment. Which, if were true, might explain the gaps in the census records, if he was out of the country on military service. But it's a leap in the dark.

Any suggestions on the best way of searching military service records online?

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Inverness / Re: MacDonalds from Skye to London?
« on: Sunday 27 March 16 18:32 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: CaroleW on Sunday 27 March 16 16:38 BST (UK)
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He married in London on August 11, 1828 in St.James Church, Clerkenwell, and lived the rest of his life in London.

He is absent from any census entry that I can find under either Mac or Mc. Have you found him?


You are 100% correct to ask that question because I'm still confusing Henry Thomas Macdonald and his son Henry John Thomas Macdonald (more Doh!)

The son Henry John Thomas is the one I've found a fairly full paper trail for.
e.g.
Baptism: 21 Jun 1829 - Clerkenwell St James, England

1861 Census: living in Brewer Street North, Clerkenwell, with wife Maria (Hurle) Macdonald Occupation = Porter at H.M. Stationery Office

1891 census: living in North Road, Islington, with wife Maria (Hurle) Macdonald, daughter Annie Macdonald and son Arthur Macdonald
Occupation = Printers Warehouseman

1901 census Living in Clerkenwell, with wife Maria (Hurle) Macdonald and daughter Annie Macdonald

He died in 1912 in Islington.

But his Dad is still a mystery man. Like you, I can't find any mention in the 1841 and 1851 census lists. Perhaps he had emigrated?

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Inverness / Re: MacDonalds from Skye to London?
« on: Sunday 27 March 16 16:18 BST (UK)  »
I wonder if this is the Henry John Macdonald I should have been looking for?

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N5XK-29N

Name    Henry Thomas Mcdonald
Gender    Male
Christening Date    20 Oct 1805
Christening Place    SAINT ANNE SOHO,WESTMINSTER,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date    29 Sep 1805
Father's Name    John Mcdonald
Mother's Name    Eleanor

But that pushes the legendry Scottish roots back another generation to John and Eleanor. From where?

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