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Armed Forces / Re: Commissioned Officers - Royal Army Medical Corps
« on: Friday 01 April 16 16:45 BST (UK)  »
Hi Simon,
Are you able to look up Major Hugh Ross Macintyre, DSO, MC + Bar, WW1 Trio with MID, MD, PHD, Royal Army Medical Corps, and let me know every thing you can find on him.

I am currently researching the life of this Officer and own his Miniature Medal Group. What I have so far is:-
Major Hugh Ross Macintyre, DSO, MC + Bar, WW1 Trio with MID, MD, PHD, Royal Army Medical Corps. His back story is fascinating born in NewChwang China 1882, (his father was a missionary) Educated in Edinburgh Scotland, sent from China at age 8 to reside with his grand parents in Edinburgh and attended George Watsons College then on to Edinburgh University winning Medical prize medals, Practical Pathology 1902, Medicine 1903-04, Disease of the Eye 1903 and Practice of Physics Mouat Scholar 1904. From the Medical register 1907 he qualified 1904 of ED Uni and is at 23 Norma Rd Waterloo, Liverpool as M.B., Bac. Surg.
On the 1911 census he is at Sydal Lodge East Harlsey Northallerton Yorkshire, employed as a Registered Medical Practitioner. I discovered an interesting piece of information from this document I noted his place of birth being NewChwang China, but also at this same address was a Katherine Leitch also born NewChwang China, after some research his sister, her husband also present is William Orr Leitch of Edinburgh.

Hugh went to war 1914 entering the Theatre of War on 22nd December 1914, ended up 23 Division 69 Field Ambulance Italy 1919. I have copies of all three of his citation for Conspicuous Gallantry, I also have copies of the war diaries of the 69th FA from 1st January 1917 up to November 1917 when the Division moved to Italy. He won his first MC at Battle of Messines June 1917, he won a Bar to his MC, having been recommended for an immediate DSO, at the Battle of Menin Road, Menin Ridge ,Hill 60, 20th September 1917. He won his DSO at the 3rd Battle of the Piave River between 27th - 29th October 1918

On his return from the War took a PHD in Oxford 1919. From the 1919 Medical Register he and his wife also a Doctor practice at Park Hill Sanatorium in Liverpool manly for wounded soldiers where he died on 23 February 1932.

I am looking for help in finding a photograph of Hugh be it military or a in civilian life.

What was his wife's maiden on the medical register she is Lilian Sarah Macintyre she is Scottish.

On the military side of things what unit was Hugh with from 1914 up until January 1917 when I know he was with 69th Field Ambulance 23rd Division I am also looking for confirmation that he moved with this unit and Division in Nov/Dec 1917 to Italy. I know he was in Italy by Oct of that year to win his DSO but did he move with them. The reason I am asking this is because I have a photograph of a RAMC Major supporting an MC riband with 20th FA on 19th June 1918 at Hesdin near Arras.
I did find on Ancestry Hugh on a family tree I sent a message through to the tree holder who on there profile was willing to help people in research etc, but after 3 months still no reply.

Hence my request for assistance, a photograph would be the icing on the cake.

With kind regards

Hiram 

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World War One / Re: 2/3rd of files destroyed etc
« on: Monday 28 March 16 23:40 BST (UK)  »
I have been researching medal recipients service with some degree of success even though I do not have his service records. Mainly his MIC will exist which gives in the majority of cases his accurate Name Unit and service number or numbers.

If KIA the effects register gives a name who the effects were given to. War Diaries are good for officers names the OR's are fairly poorly registered, but unit magazines are a great source of information. The London or Edinburgh Gazette are good for citations promotions officers etc but can be difficult to operate. Then there is the professional registers Medical for example, By simply putting the individuals name in to a good search engine can throw up some real gems, I use Bing rather than Google. There are lots of other site one can log on too, to find out stuff and that builds up as one get more experience at researching a subject, I have a favourites list which over 60+ all in relation to subject research. For example I have a site that will tell one where a Unit/Regiment of the British Army was by Location Barracks, Country from 1945 up to date. Here is a link to that site also the Anglo Boer War site, so you can try them out and save them to you favourites.

http://british-army-units1945on.co.uk/infantry.html

http://angloboerwar.com/
 
These are just two good research site of hundreds which are a great aid to the military researcher or just for looking to find out more on a family members service.
The idea of a sticky for this is a credible idea but what would be very helpful would be a sticky listing all the research site like the two I have listed, this would enable researchers to trawl this one threat and use what ever site meets there research criteria and members can add to it through time.

Kind regards
Hiram


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Antrim / Marraige of Hiram Dunn and Elizabeth Mcilroy circa 1790's Belfast
« on: Monday 28 March 16 15:55 BST (UK)  »
Good afternoon Ladies and Gentlemen,

I have quite an extensive family tree to date commencing from Hiram Dunn circa 1777 Belfast Co Antrim he married Elizabeth McIlroy circa 1790's in Belfast they had 5 children all born in Belfast
James Dunn born about 1799
Hiram Dunn
Nathaniel Dunn
Stewart Dunn

I am able to trace the family from its source in Belfast Ireland, then from1850's to America (were they remain to this day) also some went to Scotland 1840's and remain to this day.

What I am trying to do is move further back in the past, because as it stand every thing starts from Belfast Co Antrim Ireland circa 1777. Looking back is just a black hole so any advice and help from the members of this Forum would be gratefully appreciated.

With kind regards
Hiram Dunn (14 I think)


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World War One / Re: Help with Uniform Please
« on: Sunday 27 March 16 22:28 BST (UK)  »
Hi Jim,

Aye, you are right I was unaware of the other post and photograph, there would appear to be some confusion within the family then.

To make matter worse I had a look at his MIC and it has no details on it other than he is entitled to the VM and BWM no date for entering theatre of war or that he was KIA very poor and I could not find any service records, but if John is the soldier then this would have been taken some time in 1915 -17 since he did not qualify for the 1914-15 Star he did not enter a theatre of war until after 1st January 1916, therefore, photograph taken prior to then, that's the best one can do.

Cheers
Hiram

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Hi Jan,

You are a star, thank you very much for all that information, I am OK with Scotland's Peoples Record site but find it difficult to operate the English record system were you do not get a birth or marriage certificate as a matter of course.
Looks like she had a lot of grief in her life with her husband and children all passing long before her.

Once again thank you and for the info on the site which I was unaware of freebmd.

Kind regards
Hiram

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World War One / Re: Help with Uniform Please
« on: Sunday 27 March 16 16:44 BST (UK)  »
Hi Carol,

Not sure you will be able to gain much information from the uniform as it is so basic other than the 1908 pattern webbing belt, you can look through hundreds of WW1 photographs and you will see this belt being worn as in your photograph, so it is not unusual. What is unusual is that there is no shoulder titles or other distinguishing insignia on the tunic, the buttons appear to be standard brass button.

Now with regards to siblings dressing up in one of the others uniform you can discount that in this case, as 292106 John Campbell KIA 23 April 1917 in Egypt was in the Cameronians ( Scottish Rifles) and his buttons on the tunic would be Black as in all rifle regiments.

All I can say is that this photograph was taken prior to 1917, but by looking for Johns service record you may be able to help date the period, for example on his MIC there will give a date when he entered the theatre of war and was away from home.

Kind regards
Hiram 

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Hi Jan,

Thank you so much for your time in helping me in this enquiry and posting the relevant information also the PM which I have replied to in kind.

You mentioned that there might be two children?, I note one on details supplied in the PM where did you see the other ?
Kind regards
Hiram

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Hi Frank,

Thank you for taking the time to post the link. I saw this the day after the auction. I secured his miniature over a year ago and obtained the citations through the War Diaries, which I must say are one of the best set of war diaries I have read to date.

On the Battle of Messines there is an illustrated diagram showing the evacuation of casualties from the front through the various clearing stages followed by a typed report on how it went and highlighting the snags also the number of casualties that went through each. This graphic insight helps enormously in ones understanding of what went on under such extreme circumstances and conditions during the battle not covered in your normal historical account.
Once again that's for your help
Hiram

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I am currently researching the life of this Officer and own his Miniature Medal Group. What I have so far is:-
Major Hugh Ross Macintyre, DSO, MC + Bar, WW1 Trio with MID, MD, PHD, Royal Army Medical Corps. His back story is fascinating born in NewChwang China 1882, (his father was a missionary) Educated in Edinburgh Scotland, sent from China at age 8 to reside with his grand parents in Edinburgh and attended George Watsons College then on to Edinburgh University winning Medical prize medals, Practical Pathology 1902, Medicine 1903-04, Disease of the Eye 1903 and Practice of Physics Mouat Scholar 1904. From the Medical register 1907 he qualified 1904 of ED Uni and is at 23 Norma Rd Waterloo, Liverpool as M.B., Bac. Surg.
On the 1911 census he is at Sydal Lodge East Harlsey Northallerton Yorkshire, employed as a Registered Medical Practitioner. I discovered an interesting piece of information from this document I noted his place of birth being NewChwang China, but also at this same address was a Katherine Leitch also born NewChwang China, after some research his sister, her husband also present is William Orr Leitch of Edinburgh.

Hugh went to war 1914 entering the Theatre of War on 22nd December 1914, ended up 23 Division 69 Field Ambulance Italy 1919. I have copies of all three of his citation for Conspicuous Gallantry, I also have copies of the war diaries of the 69th FA from 1st January 1917 up to November 1917 when the Division moved to Italy. He won his first MC at Battle of Messines June 1917, he won a Bar to his MC, having been recommended for an immediate DSO, at the Battle of Menin Road, Menin Ridge ,Hill 60, 20th September 1917. He won his DSO at the 3rd Battle of the Piave River between 27th - 29th October 1918

On his return from the War took a PHD in Oxford 1919. From the 1919 Medical Register he and his wife also a Doctor practice at Park Hill Sanatorium in Liverpool manly for wounded soldiers where he died on 23 February 1932.

I am looking for help in finding a photograph of Hugh be it military or a in civilian life.

What was his wife's maiden on the medical register she is Lilian Sarah Macintyre she is Scottish.

On the military side of things what unit was Hugh with from 1914 up until January 1917 when I know he was with 69th Field Ambulance 23rd Division I am also looking for confirmation that he moved with this unit and Division in Nov/Dec 1917 to Italy. I know he was in Italy by Oct of that year to win his DSO but did he move with them. The reason I am asking this is because I have a photograph of a RAMC Major supporting an MC riband with 20th FA on 19th June 1918 at Hesdin near Arras.
I did find on Ancestry Hugh on a family tree I sent a message through to the tree holder who on there profile was willing to help people in research etc, but after 3 months still no reply.

Hence my request Ladies and Gentlemen for assistance, a photograph would be the icing on the cake.

With kind regards

Hiram 

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