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Sutherland / Re: Donald of Clashneach & Mary Mackay
« on: Thursday 11 July 19 22:28 BST (UK)  »
I read it clearly as 'Dr Manson'. What was the population in the area in those days? How many doctors are there likely to have been?

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Sutherland / Re: Donald of Clashneach & Mary Mackay
« on: Sunday 07 July 19 22:31 BST (UK)  »
Sorry. I wish I did know more. All my grandfather EMC had written down was that "Alexander Falconer Clarke of Rosemount, Tain, In Commission of the Peace & Deputy Lieutenant co. Sutherland, b 1802 at Durness, d 1877, married Marion, daughter of Alexandre Manson M.D. of Thurso, co Caithness."
He listed their children as - Alexander Manson, George of Eribol, Johan b1834 d 1858, Janet, Jemima b1838 d unm, David Ross. Eric Mackay (which I believe was one of his very few mistakes and should have been Eric Donald.)
Alexander's gtgrandson Reay D G Clarke died two years ago and I am not in touch with any of his family so I can't ask them questions. However, he did write a book you may find of interest - "Two hundred years of farming in Sutherland- the story of my family" It was printed in 2014 by the Islands Book Trust. There is a chapter on Alexander which gives the full names and dates of his eight children.

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Sutherland / Re: Donald of Clashneach & Mary Mackay
« on: Sunday 07 July 19 06:23 BST (UK)  »
I imagine they all knew each other and knew how they were related. James Clarke (1705-74) had married Margaret Mackay  (1726-1895) of Clasneach some time around 1750 and they had ten children by 1772.
The families seem to have educated each other's children. A diary reference in July 1828 says "Miss Isabella McKay, my cousin, who was going as governess to Mr Anderson’s Family at Rispond." and later he says [17.6.1831]
"My sister Margaret had just come home on a visit from T Houstons Esq of Creich where she has been as Governess to the young Misses Houston for some time."  and on 3.6.1833  "A Miss Mackay from Thurso came here on her way to Scourie as governess to my cousins"
The diary is full of such tantalising hints - and comments like this "For the first time, I today saw a Steam Carriage, in Princes Street" dated 28 March 1834 when he was at university in Edinburgh.  I had no idea they had spread that far so early!

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Sutherland / Re: Donald of Clashneach & Mary Mackay
« on: Saturday 06 July 19 23:34 BST (UK)  »
In May of 1828 Donald Robert Clarke wrote
"I saw my brother Alex on his return from the Inverness June (sic) Market. From Tain he went to Caithness & was married to Marion Manson, our former Governess."
However she was Marion Macbeth Manson 1800-1876 - the daughter of Alexander Manson MD and Jane/Jennie Sinclair 1781-1851 who married in Thurso on 23 Ap 1799.   I htink they had at least two other daughters - Helen Sinclair Manson 1805-1886 who never married and possibly Jane Manson whose tombstone at Arnaboll says she died on 2 July 1862 aged 63. This is all I know of them but would be very happy to share any discoveries uou may make.

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Sutherland / Re: Donald of Clashneach & Mary Mackay
« on: Sunday 09 June 19 10:41 BST (UK)  »
Yes. David Ross Clarke was born on23 Feb 1800 and chr 5 Mar 1800 at Durness. He became a trader to the West Indies and married Eliza Ann Hall at St Andrews, Pleasant Prospect pen, Jamaica on 8 March 1827.  She was the eldest child of Col Charles William Hall (1768-1832) and Isabella Anne Ford (1790-1824) who was born in Niagara Canada. DRC had two sons and three daughters but my gtgrandfather Col Alexander Ross Clarke RE, FRS, CB was the only one to leave descendants. He was awarded the Gold Medal of the Royal Society in 1887 for his "determination of the figure of the Earth" - in other words he was the first to accurately measure the size and shape of the world and the book 'Geodesy' which he wrote is still in print and the authoritative text in Englsh on the subject.
Jeanette

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Sutherland / Re: Donald of Clashneach & Mary Mackay
« on: Saturday 08 June 19 06:13 BST (UK)  »
Would the Jean Manson who married Hugh Ross be any relation to the Alexander Manson, M.D. of Thurso? He married Jane/Jennie Sinclair on 23 April 1799 and their daughter Marion Macbeth Manson (1800-1886) married Alexander Falconer Clarke JP, DL, (1802-1877), brother of my 2xgtgrandfather David Ross Clarke, the first one in the family to have 'Ross' as a middle name.

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Sutherland / Re: Donald of Clashneach & Mary Mackay
« on: Thursday 06 June 19 22:15 BST (UK)  »
I have checked the photo of the original diary and it looks as though the date has been changed to 1778 and was originally 1777. I will try to attach the relevant pages. if it doesn't work, give me an email address to send them to.
Jeanette

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Sutherland / Re: Donald of Clashneach & Mary Mackay
« on: Wednesday 05 June 19 08:35 BST (UK)  »
In D R Clarke's diary, he said on 17 March 1837 "Another friend is gone – old Mr Ross of Musselborough by whom I was so hospitably entertained 2 months ago."
The first mention of "Mr John Ross"  was on 28 November 1835 and again on 27 Feb 1836. If I wrote 1838 it was a typo. Sorry. Jeanette

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Sutherland / Re: Donald of Clashneach & Mary Mackay
« on: Wednesday 09 March 16 02:33 GMT (UK)  »
James Clarke & Margaret Mackay were my  4x great grandparents and John Clarke 1770-1837 who married Johanna Falconer 1773-1858 was their 7th son and 9th child. Their youngest son Donald Robert Clarke 1815-1883 kept a diary from the age of 12 until his marriage, I am currently transcribing it and think this entry may be of relevance. It is dated the 28th of October 1835.
"This being Saturday, I took a run out to Musselborough by one of the Railway Coaches to visit a Mr John Ross, a very old gentleman a native of Durness. He entertained me very much with his stories of olden times. He left Durness in 1778 to join the 71st Regt. He says that Rob Donn was the last person he shook hands with in Durness at the top of the Balloch Mor. He remembers very well my great grandmother “Bean mhor Chlasneach” widow of Donald Mackay alias MacConil of Clashneach, lived to 105 years. Her son George was a Councillor in Madras & one of the most influential men in that Presidency. My grandfather James Clarke, he recollected perfectly. Mr Ross thinks he was at the battle of Prestonpans (21 Sept 1745 JG) in Lord Loudon’s ……..He says that he had the salmon fishing of Durness & that every person that crossed the Cruive at Gruisie got a salmon. Mr R remembers when the only gravestones in the churchyard of Durness were those over the graves of Kenneth Sutherland of Keoldale & his descendants among whom was the famous Isbal N’ic Aoidh. Mr Ross is remarkably kind. I promised to repeat my visit. Remained till Evg of next day."
On the 27th February 1838 he recorded
"I went out to Musselburgh to visit my friend Mr Ross. He says that most of my grandfather’s family were at school with him at Durness. The young men he says were the stoutest, handsomest he ever saw. He was intimate with my uncle George, Lieut in the H.E.I.C.Service, who fell in action 10 Sept 1780 at Genl Baillie’s defeat. The 71st (at that time the 73rd) were near the ground about 12 months, afterwards when some of the Durness men went to see the spot there my uncle fell. Mr Ross was 41 years in the 71st & 20 of these in India. He says that most of the great people were in his early days buried in the Churches in the Reay Country. My Greatgrandfather & great grandmother are buried in the Church of Durness, he thinks at the side of the wall near the Balnakiel Seat. He recollects when the only seats in the Church were the Clergyman’s, my grandfather’s & the Balnakiel. The rest of the people brought stools or stones or piled up old bones & sat on them. Not a hat entered the Church on Sunday but the Minister’s & that was a coarse one! Young men indeed never thought of wearing even a bonnet till they were married & then the bonnet used to come with the whisky for the wedding. Knotty-playing & Dancing were the great accomplishments for young men.
Mr R remembers seeing my grandfather, one of the most opulent men in the parish, set off to visit the Hon Capt Mackay of Skibo, Lord Reay’s father. “He was well mounted, booted & spurred” says he, “with a pair of hose under his boots reaching a little above the calf of the leg. His breeches, which had recently come into fashion, did not nearly meet the boots or hose, so that the whole knee was bare & exposed to the weather. On his head he wore a broad blue bonnet.”  This was previous to 1778 in which year Mr Ross left the country & did not revisit it till 1822."

On another visit on 18 October 1836 he wrote
"Dined with Mr Ross & walked afterwards into town. Mr R thinks my grandfather James Clarke was at this battle of Prestonpans in the 21st Regt under Lord Loudon. If he was there at all, he must have been on the side of the Royal forces, & his grandson cannot help thinking, on the wrong side."

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