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England / Re: Frederick Goudy, bigamist, or not?
« on: Thursday 04 February 16 23:05 GMT (UK) »
I don't think he got caught or he would have turned up in the criminal records!
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England / Re: Frederick Goudy, bigamist, or not?
« on: Thursday 04 February 16 22:46 GMT (UK) »
It is interesting that Frederick born in 1848 who I still think is my man had a brother named Alfred with the middle name of Bryant that is quite close to Bryer if it had been mistranscribed by the clerk it could have been Bryant and not Bryer?
I found another reference to Frederick Goudy junior he was in the newspapers again ( in The Reading Mercury 27 April 1895) for stealing a bag.. his mother is mentioned as a widow at that point...however she may have said this to explain the fact that she was alone. She had another child named Florrie Bathsheba in 1889 who died aged two in 1891 in Reading.. Bathsheba ended up in the workhouse for a while in 1889 with Frederick junior and Florrie but no sign of Arthur and Alice at that point although they are with her in the 1891 Census. My guess is that Bathsheba found out that Frederick was already married and moved to Reading from London around that time, and then Frederick senior moved to London away from her and then to Maidstone. Poor Bathsheba seems to have had a hard life but she kept her children together and had a close relationship with her daughter as she ended up moving to Coventry with her eventually and died there.
I found another reference to Frederick Goudy junior he was in the newspapers again ( in The Reading Mercury 27 April 1895) for stealing a bag.. his mother is mentioned as a widow at that point...however she may have said this to explain the fact that she was alone. She had another child named Florrie Bathsheba in 1889 who died aged two in 1891 in Reading.. Bathsheba ended up in the workhouse for a while in 1889 with Frederick junior and Florrie but no sign of Arthur and Alice at that point although they are with her in the 1891 Census. My guess is that Bathsheba found out that Frederick was already married and moved to Reading from London around that time, and then Frederick senior moved to London away from her and then to Maidstone. Poor Bathsheba seems to have had a hard life but she kept her children together and had a close relationship with her daughter as she ended up moving to Coventry with her eventually and died there.
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England / Re: Frederick Goudy, bigamist, or not?
« on: Wednesday 03 February 16 19:21 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for starting a new Thread on this.
I will look into the one that emigrated but my gut feeling is that it is the one who died in Maidenhead in 1920 and who had Arthur G Goudy as his young brother and his son.
I will look into the one that emigrated but my gut feeling is that it is the one who died in Maidenhead in 1920 and who had Arthur G Goudy as his young brother and his son.
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Berkshire / Re: Goodey Family of Reading
« on: Tuesday 02 February 16 22:21 GMT (UK) »
Its all very interesting. I wonder if he was a bigamist if he would have told the truth on the marriage certificate? So getting it might not prove it one way or the other and will cost £9 !
Elise
Elise
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Berkshire / Re: Goodey Family of Reading
« on: Tuesday 02 February 16 19:18 GMT (UK) »
Have not come across him!
If there is another Frederick Goudy I do not know where he could be.. but what makes me think it is the same one is the fact that Bathshebas second son was called Arthur G Goudy and I know your Frederick had a little brother called Arthur G Goudy who died aged 7. Also the fact that Bathsheba started off in Norfolk then moved to London then moved to Reading where Frederick was and as soon as Bathsheba moved to Reading Frederick moves to London and then to Maidenhead and Bathsheba stays in Reading until she moves with her daughter and daughters husband to Coventry. I think Frederick had family in the Swindon area and then in the 1960's when my friends Grandparents first moved south they settled in Wiltshire and their children ended up in Dorset. That could have just been a coincidence though.
If there is another Frederick Goudy I do not know where he could be.. but what makes me think it is the same one is the fact that Bathshebas second son was called Arthur G Goudy and I know your Frederick had a little brother called Arthur G Goudy who died aged 7. Also the fact that Bathsheba started off in Norfolk then moved to London then moved to Reading where Frederick was and as soon as Bathsheba moved to Reading Frederick moves to London and then to Maidenhead and Bathsheba stays in Reading until she moves with her daughter and daughters husband to Coventry. I think Frederick had family in the Swindon area and then in the 1960's when my friends Grandparents first moved south they settled in Wiltshire and their children ended up in Dorset. That could have just been a coincidence though.
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Berkshire / Re: Goodey Family of Reading
« on: Tuesday 02 February 16 10:02 GMT (UK) »
No I think I might have to get it at some point. I am doing this for my friend who is the other Nana to my granddaughter and am not sure she will want to pay out for it as its not her main line although still in her direct line. Alice was my friends Great Grandmother so she's my gd's 3 x ggm I think!
Elise
Elise
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Berkshire / Re: Goodey Family of Reading
« on: Tuesday 02 February 16 10:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi again
It was Fred Senior who married in 1882 who had Bryer as his middle name Fred junior was born in 1883 Arthur in 1884 and Alice in 1886.
Elise
It was Fred Senior who married in 1882 who had Bryer as his middle name Fred junior was born in 1883 Arthur in 1884 and Alice in 1886.
Elise
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Berkshire / Re: Goodey Family of Reading
« on: Tuesday 02 February 16 09:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi thanks for replying.
I might be totally wrong but I have a hunch that he had two families on the go. Not counting the first marriage that you can't find. His son Frederick mentions his father as Frederick Goady on his Military Record the son was a bit of a character, was in the paper for stealing five pounds to run away to sea he did go to sea as he is in Cornwall in 1901.. he joined the army Royal Irish Regiment in 1902 and deserted the same year then rejoined and was discharged 1904 medically unfit. He then turns up twice in the workhouse. He had also previously been at a reform school. His name on the details of the first marriage was Frederick Bryer Goudy . He is not living with Bathsheba in any census but had three maybe more children by her, Frederick Arthur G and Alice. I found the above info about Fred junior from Army Records on FindMyPast and Newspapers also on FindMyPast.
Best wishes Elise
I might be totally wrong but I have a hunch that he had two families on the go. Not counting the first marriage that you can't find. His son Frederick mentions his father as Frederick Goady on his Military Record the son was a bit of a character, was in the paper for stealing five pounds to run away to sea he did go to sea as he is in Cornwall in 1901.. he joined the army Royal Irish Regiment in 1902 and deserted the same year then rejoined and was discharged 1904 medically unfit. He then turns up twice in the workhouse. He had also previously been at a reform school. His name on the details of the first marriage was Frederick Bryer Goudy . He is not living with Bathsheba in any census but had three maybe more children by her, Frederick Arthur G and Alice. I found the above info about Fred junior from Army Records on FindMyPast and Newspapers also on FindMyPast.
Best wishes Elise
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Berkshire / Re: Goodey Family of Reading/Goudy family
« on: Monday 01 February 16 23:10 GMT (UK) »
Hello
I am researching Frederick Goudy born 1848 in Suffolk to Elijah. He was married firstly to Louisa and also then to Anna Maria Soffia but I think he may be a bigamist as he appears to have another family with Bathsheba Snasdell who he married in 1882 in Westminster. She moves to Reading St Giles with their children in 1891 and he moves to Poplar London and then moves to Maidenhead. Does anyone else have this theory or am I barking up the wrong tree? Bathsheba then moves eventually to Coventry with her daughter Alice who married Eli Pendell. My granddaughter descends from Alice who is her 3 x great grandmother. Thanks
Elise
I am researching Frederick Goudy born 1848 in Suffolk to Elijah. He was married firstly to Louisa and also then to Anna Maria Soffia but I think he may be a bigamist as he appears to have another family with Bathsheba Snasdell who he married in 1882 in Westminster. She moves to Reading St Giles with their children in 1891 and he moves to Poplar London and then moves to Maidenhead. Does anyone else have this theory or am I barking up the wrong tree? Bathsheba then moves eventually to Coventry with her daughter Alice who married Eli Pendell. My granddaughter descends from Alice who is her 3 x great grandmother. Thanks
Elise
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