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World War One / Re: Samuel Stanley Sykes - War Records
« on: Friday 08 January 16 13:27 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, commissioned in to the 3VB West Yorkshire Regiment is quite correct, 1908 then saw the creation of the Territorial Force with 3VB becoming the 7th and 8th Battalions (Leeds Rifles) Prince of Wales's Own West Yorkshire Regiment, the reason for forming 2 Battalions was that recruiting was so good in Leeds.

Regards,
Stateside 123

London Gazette takes a bit of practice to plumb. There are at least 12 references, & I suspect more

eg
3rd Volunteer Battalion, The Prince of Wales's
Own (West Yorkshire Regiment);
The undermentioned second lieutenants to be
Lieutenants:—
S. S. Sykes. Dated llth August, 1906.


and his commission
3rd Volunteer Battalion, The Prince of Wales's
Own (West Yorkshire Regiment); Samuel
Stanley Sykes, Gent, to be Second Lieutenant.
Dated 30th December, 1905.


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World War One / Re: Italian Front - Major Sykes.
« on: Friday 08 January 16 13:19 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

Very sorry for been so late regarding this post but have only just discovered the site.

Regarding your Grandfather being down as belonging to 8th (Leeds Rifles) Battalion The West Yorkshire Regiment, that would be correct as his parent unit and cap badge. As to serving with a different Regiment again most likely and quite common after the armistice as certain Battalions were earmarked for Army of Occupation duties whom needed to keep their manning levels up as soldiers were being discharged at the end of their commitment, so as an officer or soldiers unit who still had a service commitment was reduced to cadre/drawn down and returned to the UK they would be posted to another Battalion not necessarily of their own parent cap badge. It would seem that the norm in such cases would be for officers to retain their parent unit cap badges whilst other ranks were re-badged to the new unit. Some unit war diaries for late 1918/1919 document these cross postings well, unfortunately some don't.

Regards,

Stateside 123

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Hi,

A very interesting post, I'm sorry it has taken me so long to find it. Regarding the cap badges (if you have not already got to the bottom of things). Whilst its quite common to find photographs of officers of the 1/7th and 2/7th Battalion wearing what is the other ranks pattern Leeds Rifles cap badge it is unusual to see an officer of 1/8th wearing such a badge, I did look more than once at the photo of your grandfather at Aldershot and thought possibly a York & Lancaster Regiment badge but as it certainly appears to have a Maltese cross in its centre I think Leeds Rifles for sure.

Kind Regards,

Stateside
 
Attached is my great grandfather's cap. It doesn't look like the West Yorkshire Regiment cap badge at all. Either that or my eye sight is shot. I thought it may look like the Croix de Guerre which was a medal given to the 1/8th Battalion, Leeds Rifles. Then again why would he have it on his cap? Also, if this is his cap badge they must have changed it seeing as in the other picture it looks completely different.

Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. You can find the segment of his cap, a picture of the Croix de Guerre and another picture of Major Sykes clearly showing the West Yorkshire  Regiment cap badge.

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