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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Sims/Syms/Simms Y-DNA
« on: Tuesday 12 January 16 16:50 GMT (UK)  »
The information that I have on my American Bridgers says they were from Gloucestershire, but that could be wrong.

The upgrade on my Sims/Syms' Y-DNA (brother's) shows him to be in the L-21 group.  This isn't a surprise, others that were descended from William Syms/Sims are in this same subgroup.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Sims/Syms/Simms Y-DNA
« on: Friday 25 December 15 16:32 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for the 'alias' link!  In the case of the Wiltshire Sims' it was probably used to distinguish one family of Sims' from the other.  Somewhere back in the genealogical tree, a Sims undoubtedly married a woman named Shipman.

I notice you research Bridger.  I have a Bridgar in my tree - 'doubt the spelling difference means anything, knowing how that went back then.  I haven't researched the Bridgars much, but in 1913 a very old gravestone from an abandoned graveyard was found in Heathsville, Northumberland County, Virginia, for Elizabeth Bridgar Haynie.  Her husband, Capt. Richard Haynie, was a member of the House of Burgesses in Virginia. I tried to attach a picture of it, but it wouldn't accept that kind of file.  If you want to see it, you can probably find it by Googling it.   It reads -

Here Lyeth the Body of Elizabeth Haynie daughter of Richard & Jane Bridgar   
Was born July 16th 1665 married to Richard Haynie Oct. 10th 1681 by whom she had 8 children & died his wife April 2, 1697

The stone is now protected behind a bank!

Richard Haynie wrote a letter to the assembly of the House of Burgesses to excuse his absence -

Right Worshipful and Werthy Gent -
This, with all due respect, comes to give you an act of my absents from the ______ occationed by my Wife's sickness, who is far more likely to Dye than recover (and I cannot in conscience leave her) If please God I see any probable amendment in her sickness, shall not faile immediately to give my due attendance.  Till such time, I hope this may be a reasonable excuse to Gent.
Yre Most Humble Servt.
Richard Haynie

Richard Bridgar, Elizabeth's father, was probably the immigrant ancestor.  I'll check my Ancestry.com tree and see if I have a place of birth for him.

Thanks for the link!

Sherry


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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Sims/Syms/Simms Y-DNA
« on: Friday 25 December 15 02:16 GMT (UK)  »
I'm trying to find out where in England my ancestor, William Syms/Sims came from.  He was born about ?1640-1646 and was in Virginia by 1658.  I paid for a Y-DNA test for a male Sims whose ancestors lived in Somerset, and he was in the "I" group.  My brother's Y-DNA is in the "R-M269" group. 
If you are a Sims whose ancestors have lived in Britain since the 17th century, I'll pay for your test.  All you have to do is swab your mouth, follow the simple rules, then mail the envelope back to the U.S.  Since R-M269 is the most common haplogroup in England, I've upgraded my brother's test from 37 to 67 markers.

Most of the colonists in early Virginia were from Southwestern England, so that's the most likely area he would have come from, however, immigrants came from all over Britain.  There was a William Syms born 6 Jan., 1642, in Steeple, Ashton, Wiltshire, son of a William Sims.

I've also noticed that there are many people recorded in Wiltshire from All Cannings who are listed as Sims alias Shipman or Shipman alias Sims.  Is it possible that my real maiden name is Shipman?  I would like to correspond with anyone whose Shipman/Sims ancestors lived in Wiltshire in the 17th century, also.

Thanks!

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Wiltshire / Re: SIMS or SHIPMAN of All Cannings
« on: Thursday 24 December 15 01:18 GMT (UK)  »
Hello, all!  I'm new here, Sherry from America.

I can prove my ancestry back to William Syms/later Sims, who immigrated to Virginia in 1658, wrote his will in 1710 and died as a very old man in 1725 in New Kent County, Virginia.  He owned land in both James City County and New Kent County.  His will (which is only available because of a law suit in Louisa County, where the early records weren't destroyed) verifies that he is the father of my John Sims.

I've been trying to find out where in England William Syms came from.

From another site, I've found a William Syms who was baptised January 6, 1642, at Steeple Ashton, Wiltshire, England, the son of a Williams Syms.  This birth date would have been about right for my William.  Most of the immigrants to Virginia in the 17th century were from southwestern England, so I'm looking there first.  This is strictly a stab in the dark, but does anyone have any information on this William Syms?

There are numerous wills of Sims' in Wiltshire listed on another site from the 17th century.  Does anyone live in Wiltshire and have easy access to them?  Most list Sims alias Shipman or Shipman alias Sims.  In Virginia and South Carolina in colonial days, the term 'alias' was used, but it appeared to relate only to illegitimacy.  For example, my husband has an ancestor who arrived in S. Carolina in 1725 and lived in the backwoods.  He eventually took up with Elizabeth Hains, didn't marry her in the Church of England, but when proper clergy was available, he did so.  The birth of their son and  their marriage certificate from The Register Book for the Parish Prince Frederick Winyaw reads -

Godbold, John (alias John Hains) natural son of John Godbold and Elizabeth Hains born July 24th, 1739.  Baptized April 24th, 1740.  The said Godbold and Hains married the same day.

So, it's interesting to see 'alias' used in relation to a 'hold' on people.  Were these Sims/Shipmans the children of a man named Sims or Shipman? Were they named Sims, but someone named Shipman sort of 'owned' them?

By the way, my brother's Y-DNA shows he's in the R-M269 group. 

I would love to hear from anyone who has anything to share about the Sims/Shipmans of Wiltshire.

Thank you,

Sherry

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Wiltshire / Re: SIMS or SHIPMAN of All Cannings
« on: Thursday 24 December 15 01:18 GMT (UK)  »
Hello, all!  I'm new here, Sherry from America.

I can prove my ancestry back to William Syms/later Sims, who immigrated to Virginia in 1658, wrote his will in 1710 and died as a very old man in 1725 in New Kent County, Virginia.  He owned land in both James City County and New Kent County.  His will (which is only available because of a law suit in Louisa County, where the early records weren't destroyed) verifies that he is the father of my John Sims.

I've been trying to find out where in England William Syms came from.

From another site, I've found a William Syms who was baptised January 6, 1642, at Steeple Ashton, Wiltshire, England, the son of a Williams Syms.  This birth date would have been about right for my William.  Most of the immigrants to Virginia in the 17th century were from southwestern England, so I'm looking there first.  This is strictly a stab in the dark, but does anyone have any information on this William Syms?

There are numerous wills of Sims' in Wiltshire listed on another site from the 17th century.  Does anyone live in Wiltshire and have easy access to them?  Most list Sims alias Shipman or Shipman alias Sims.  In Virginia and South Carolina in colonial days, the term 'alias' was used, but it appeared to relate only to illegitimacy.  For example, my husband has an ancestor who arrived in S. Carolina in 1725 and lived in the backwoods.  He eventually took up with Elizabeth Hains, didn't marry her in the Church of England, but when proper clergy was available, he did so.  The birth of their son and  their marriage certificate from The Register Book for the Parish Prince Frederick Winyaw reads -

Godbold, John (alias John Hains) natural son of John Godbold and Elizabeth Hains born July 24th, 1739.  Baptized April 24th, 1740.  The said Godbold and Hains married the same day.

So, it's interesting to see 'alias' used in relation to a 'hold' on people.  Were these Sims/Shipmans the children of a man named Sims or Shipman? Were they named Sims, but someone named Shipman sort of 'owned' them?

By the way, my brother's Y-DNA shows he's in the R-M269 group. 

I would love to hear from anyone who has anything to share about the Sims/Shipmans of Wiltshire.

Thank you,

Sherry

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