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MARY MUNDAY
(1853 – 1886)
Also known as MARY DAVIS

JAMES DAVIS
(c1841 – 1912)


Mary Munday was born at (assumedly) Bombala on 2nd August 1853 and baptised at Berrima 24 August 1853. Her place of birth was most likely a large property called Bumballa, located in the parish of Bumballa (south of Berrima) and it joined onto the parish of Marulan. Parent’s names were Ellen Neenan and William Munday (a labourer), both of Bombarlow (originally a portion of the property called Bumballa).

Mary Munday married James Davis on 31st July 1871 at Queanbeyan. Her surname was actually recorded as Mundy. At the time of her marriage, she was under 21 years of age and her usual place of residence was recorded as Bungendore. James Davis lived at Captain’s Flat and Primrose Valley near Carwoola. James had obtained a land grant from the government in 1876 and took up a selection of land at Molonglo, County of Murray, parish of Yarrow, section 13. This land was possibly located in Primrose Valley, adjoining the large property called Carwoola. (In 1861, Molonglo was purchased by the owner of Carwoola).

NSW state records show a James Davis as being a free immigrant, age 22, via ship “Hotspur” arriving Australia 1863.  That would mean his birth year being 1841 or 1842.  It is believed that this person is the James Davis mentioned above. A family member stated that he was actually born in Wales.

The 7 known children from the marriage were probably born at Molonglo/Carwoola.

William J DAVIS              born  in 1871.  Registered at Queanbeyan.
Caroline DAVIS                born  in 1873.  Registered at Queanbeyan.
Henry DAVIS                    born  in 1875.  Registered at Queanbeyan.
Edward DAVIS                 born  in 1878.  Registered at Queanbeyan.
Theresa Jane DAVIS        born at Molonglo  31 August  1880. – MAIN LINK IN TREE
Thomas DAVIS                 born  in 1881.  Registered at Queanbeyan.
George DAVIS                  born in 1883.  Registered at Queanbeyan.

Mary Davis died at Primrose Valley, Molonglo on 1 November 1886 aged 34 years.  According to death certificate, her birth place was Bombala, her children listed as 5 males, 1 female living and 1 female deceased. Father shown as William Munday and her mother as Alice Leenon.  Mary died from inflammation of the lungs and was buried at Molonglo  2nd November 1886.
 
James Davis died 4th December 1912 at Captain’s Flat. Cause of death was senile heart. He was buried in the Carwoola Cemetery at Molonglo on 5 December 1912. The death certificate states he was 71 years of age, born in England and married at Moss Vale at the age of 29. (According to actual marriage records, he was married at Queanbeyan Presbyterian Church in 1871).  No parent’s names nor place of birth recorded on that marriage certificate.  The informant for the death certificate was his son, Henry Davis.

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ELLEN NEENAN (c1829 – 1873)
also known as ELLEN MUNDAY and ELLEN LYON

WILLIAM MUNDAY (c1808 – 1857)
THOMAS LYON (c1810 – 1895)

Ellen Neenan was born circa 1829.  No record of the birth.  Birth place is currently unknown, but probably in the St. Marys’ region, west of Parramatta. Ellen married William Munday at All Saints Church of England, Sutton Forest  2nd June 1843.  Ellen could read and write, but William was illiterate.  No consents given for that marriage.  The marriage record does not reveal any of their parent’s names.

Witnesses at the marriage were John Wales and Mira Waite, both of Mittagong. (The Waite family owned property at Sutton Forest).

William Munday was from Somersetshire in England and arrived in Australia as a convict on the ship “Burell” 19th December 1830.  He had been convicted for housebreaking and also had a previous gaol term of  3 months. On the 30th March 1828 at Taunton England, he was sentenced to transportation to Australia for life.

He was described as age 20,  5 feet 7 inches tall, ruddy complexion, brown hair, hazel/grey eyes, no education, protestant, blacksmith for 3 years. He had tattoos of a sailing ship on the upper part of body, anchor on lower part, anchor on right arm, the initials WMMMWM on left arm.

An 1837 NSW General Return of Convicts describes William Mundy  in the service of Willmott Jasper of Berrima NSW.  He was later granted his freedom and soon after, apparently enlisted in the NSW colonial army. He died 15 May 1857 at Goulburn hospital and was buried 17 May 1857 at Goulburn. On his death certificate it states that he was 45, married to Ellen Neeman. Upwards 20 years in NSW. Farmer – soldier – then nightwatchman.
 
Six known children to the marriage.

MARTHA MUNDAY  born 14 July 1844 at Mittagong.
WILLIAM MUNDAY  born 26 December 1846 at Bumbolloway.
JOHN MUNDAY  born 19 March 1849 at Bombarlow.
JAMES MUNDAY  born 14 November 1851at Bombarlow.
MARY MUNDAY  born 2 August 1853 at Bombarlow.
ELLEN MUNDAY  born 3 July 1855 at Bombala. (Probably meant to be Bumballa).

A research of land records does not reveal a property or parish called Bumbolloway. In 1822, a Mr. Jenkins and his family were the residents and land owners of a large property called Bumballa (in the county of Camden), which was located south of Sutton Forest.  Old land maps reveal Bumballa parish joined onto the parish of Marulan in the county of Argyle. In the parish of Marulan, there was a large property called Bombarlow and in 1828, the landholder’s name was William Chisholm. William Munday probably was a labourer or farmer  employed by William Chisholm.

Prior to 1857, all references to the above Munday family reveal them located in areas between Mittagong and Marulan. Research by Berrima Family History Society in 2004, revealed that Bumbolloway and Bombarlow were the same large property known as Bumballa.

Ellen Neenan (the widow of William Munday snr) was recorded as  39 years of age when she had a 2nd marriage to a Thomas Lyon at the C of E Queanbeyan 30th January 1868. Those marriage records show Ellen’s surname recorded as Mundy and her parent’s names were recorded as Denis Neenan (a sergeant) and Margaret Scully.

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Australia / Re: William DAVIS married to Martha ORME/HOLMES 1/2/1869, Collector, NSW
« on: Wednesday 09 December 15 09:46 GMT (UK)  »
The story I was told - that the horse got startled, wagon lurched, William Davis fell off the wagon and he was fatally injured when a wheel went over him.

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Australia / Re: William DAVIS married to Martha ORME/HOLMES 1/2/1869, Collector, NSW
« on: Sunday 06 December 15 01:07 GMT (UK)  »
photo Martha Orme/Davis/Howard with some of the Maher family c1920

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Australia / Re: William DAVIS married to Martha ORME/HOLMES 1/2/1869, Collector, NSW
« on: Sunday 06 December 15 00:47 GMT (UK)  »
Land map of Currawong 1895, etc

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Australia / Re: William DAVIS married to Martha ORME/HOLMES 1/2/1869, Collector, NSW
« on: Sunday 06 December 15 00:37 GMT (UK)  »
NOTES…..Photos of William and Martha’s daughters, Ada, Martha and Annie, reveal dark skin and aboriginal features.  An elderly descendant (in 2002) recalls Frances Ellen Davis (another of William’s daughters) was also dark skinned and had aboriginal features. Those same features are also evident in a c1925 photo of Ada’s daughter Ethel Maude Rogers.  (In contrast, Ada’s mother (Martha Orme) had her father’s English features and Ada’s 1st husband (Martin Rogers) was born in England).  Dates, places, descriptions, photos and other information, collectively indicate that the aboriginal, William Davis, who died at Berry on 27 November 1892, was Martha Davis’ husband.

Copies of various documents and certificates, show many variations insofar as dates,places and names are concerned.  Some errors could be due to illiteracy. The variations would normally indicate more than one William Davis involved, or maybe unofficial adoptions, but all the above children were definitely raised by Martha.

William’s marriage certificate of 1869, states he was born at Mittagong in 1837.
A son’s birth certificate 1885, states William Davis as age 57, born at Mittagong 1837.
William’s death at Berry 1892, states age 50, born at Burrawang.  (i.e. born 1842).
A daughter’s certificate 1890,  father William Davis age 44, born Sydney. (i.e. 1846).
A daughter’s birth certificate 1869, states father’s name is John William Davis.
A daughter’s baptism certificate 1873, states her father as William George Davis.
A daughter’s birth in Dec. 1877  father William Davis age 40 born Sydney. (i.e. 1837).
The William Davis at Braidwood Gaol  c1890, is shown as age 45.  (i.e. born c1845).

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Australia / Re: William DAVIS married to Martha ORME/HOLMES 1/2/1869, Collector, NSW
« on: Sunday 06 December 15 00:26 GMT (UK)  »
OTHER INFO AND NOTES    page 2

Another of Ellen’s daughters was Martha, but her birth was recorded as “Orme (Holmes)”. Ellen’s eldest son (William Orme - jnr) had six children.  Their surnames were recorded as either Horn or Horm, but when those children married, their surnames were recorded as Holmes.  One of them married at Mudgee in 1893 and another at Wattle Flat  in 1894. (Wattle Flat  is south of Mudgee). Some of our Orme families then moved further north to the Tenterfield/Inverell districts. Tenterfield is located about 20 kilometres south of the Queensland border.

Page 79 lists Martha Jane Munday as a daughter of Ellen Neenan (main family link). Martha was born in 1844 at Mittagong. She died at Texas QLD in 1915. Texas is very close to the QLD/NSW border, not far from Tenterfield.

A Florence Benson is mentioned on page 45. Her family moved from Captain’s Flat to the Tenterfield district. Florence married at Inverell in 1905.  On  page 11, there is reference to a Henry Penhall who was employed/residing at Willeroo homestead in 1877. William Davis and Martha Orme (Holmes) were also employees living at Willeroo since at least 1869 to about 1880. William married Martha in 1869. Henry Penhall moved to Tenterfield and married there in 1883. His wife Sarah gave birth to 2 children there, and then a 3rd at Cooma in 1889 who died at Kiama in 1891. In 1887, some of the Davis family were also recorded at Cooma.  During 1891, William and Martha Davis, plus most of their children and grandchildren, also moved to Kiama. By 1914, three of those children (and their families) plus the Penhall family had moved to Sydney.

Some of the distances travelled by family members and acquaintances, were quite considerable. All the travels would probably have been by horse drawn vehicles, rail and/or foot. (For example :  Willeroo to Tenterfield is approximately 1000 kilometres. Then return south to Cooma  is approximately another 1200 kilometres). Possibly the journeys were made by ship to the nearest port or by rail, then the land journey.

There are many references to the Tenterfield and surrounding areas and assumedly, many descendants of our early ancestors are residing in those same areas.
 
The following persons were recorded in an 1828 Census conducted in NSW. The census was mainly intended as a record of the exact whereabouts of convicts on ticket of leave, bonded, early release or free by servitude, etc.  It did not normally include aboriginals.

James DAVIS, age 30, sentence life, arrived 1818 on ship “Shipley”, bonded as a government servant (shepherd) to Mr. McArthur at “Arthursleigh” Sutton Forest.

John DAVIS, age 19, born in colony, occupation stockkeeper, employed by John Larkham at Sutton Forest.

Daniel DAVIS, age 21, sentence life, arrived 1828, government servant (hutkeeper) to William Cowper of Bombay (near Braidwood).

On page 40, there is a reference to Ada Ann Davis being born at Mount Pleasant in 1869 and her father’s name shown as John William Davis. There was a Mount Pleasant located near Yass, another near Willeroo and another near Gerringong. Listed in the 1872 Post Office Directory for Yass are 5 persons with surname of Davis.
George DAVIS,  a farmer at Yass River
James DAVIS,  innkeeper at Mundoonan via Yass
John DAVIS,  farmer --- Yass
Noah DAVIS , ---- Mount Pleasant via Yass
William DAVIS,  farmer at Lutton via Yass

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Australia / Re: William DAVIS married to Martha ORME/HOLMES 1/2/1869, Collector, NSW
« on: Sunday 06 December 15 00:25 GMT (UK)  »
OTHER INFORMATION AND NOTES    page 1

It is most certain that our Davis and Mundy related ancestors were originally in the Robertson, Sutton Forest, Bong Bong, Burrawang, Bowral, Berrima and Mittagong areas.  There are too many instances of same surname related births, deaths and marriages registered within those areas, especially at Bong Bong and Sutton Forest.  There are instances of one or two day journeys being made from other locations, even from Yass, despite church facilities being in place at those other locations. This indicates that our Davis related family roots were probably long established and widely spread within the above mentioned areas.  In 1828, a James Davis (life sentence convict) age 30, was a shepherd indentured to the McArthur family at “Arthursleigh” Sutton Forest. Our ancestor, William Davis, was aboriginal and was born between 1837 and 1840 at  either Mittagong or Burrawang (both close to Sutton Forest and Bong Bong). That James Davis could possibly be the father of our William Davis.

A child named Henry Lucas was christened at Bong Bong in 1837. Parents were Samuel Lucas and Susan Davis, both of Inverary.  Why travel from Inverary?  Reason probably due to Susan’s siblings and family members (Davis) probably resided in areas near Bong Bong.  Susan Davis was possibly an aunt or related to our William Davis. In 1828, there was  a Martha Davis, age 20, a servant in the Futter family homestead called “Lumley Park”. Martha was a convict arriving Australia in 1828 and had been sentenced to 7 years.  Lumley is very close to Inverary.

Also in 1837, a William Clee Tomkins (aboriginal) of Yass married an Elizabeth Davis at Bong Bong. Both in the service of  I. Waite of Yass (property owner).  Abode shown as Maneira (probably a large property name or possibly meant to be Monaro). Elizabeth was a daughter of a George and Mary Davis.  Probable relatives of our William Davis.  Why travel from Yass to Bong Bong?  Could the reason be Elizabeth Davis’ parents and relatives probably all resided in areas surrounding Bong Bong?  Elizabeth Davis was most likely family related to Susan Davis mentioned above. Several members of the Waite family (mentioned above), lived in the Berrima and Mittagong areas (near Bong Bong). Myra Waite of Mittagong, signed as a witness at the marriage of our other ancestors, William Munday to Ellen Neenan at Sutton Forest  in 1843. Sutton Forest is also near Bong Bong.  In 1828, a John Waite was a stock and land owner at Bong Bong.

Another early ancestor, Jane Meggett (adopted name Orme, but recorded as Arms), married a James Henry at Goulburn in 1857. An Elizabeth Jane Henry died at Robertson in 1894 and parents were James and Jane Graham. Could Elizabeth Jane
Henry be a daughter in law of Jane Meggett?  Jane’s mother (Ellen Peters) married John Meggett at Bong Bong in 1837 (Bong Bong is very close to Robertson).  In 1875 at Braidwood, a Jane Henry married a James Abernethy. They had 6 children (1876 – 1887) and all born in the Shoalhaven area (Nowra). Could she be our Jane Meggett having a 2nd marriage?  In February 2003, a Sydney Morning Herald newspaper had a photograph of the disgraced detective, Roger Rogerson with an underworld mate whose name was Graham “Abo” Henry.  Possibly a descendant of Jane Henry (nee Meggett) or her husband’s relatives.

Jane Meggett’s mother was Ellen Peters (married names of Meggett and then Orme) but have not been able to find a death record for Ellen. Ellen was also the mother of Martha Orme/Holmes who married our William Davis.  In 1893, an Ellen Holmes died at Cassilis (north of Mudgee) and parent’s names recorded as unknown. That Ellen was born c1839 and was age 54 when she died. She was probably related to our Ellen Orme. It is known that Ellen Orme died prior to 1899.  One of Ellen Orme’s daughters had a 2nd marriage in 1899 – but mother’s name was shown as Helen Walker and deceased.

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Australia / Re: William DAVIS married to Martha ORME/HOLMES 1/2/1869, Collector, NSW
« on: Sunday 06 December 15 00:21 GMT (UK)  »
Information on place names   part 2

The nearby village of Bungonia was a stopover freight point located on the original main road from Sydney to Queanbeyan. The main road changed when a more direct road was built from Sutton Forest to Marulan.  Bungonia then became a more secluded area, located approximately 20 kilometres away from the new main road.

It was common practice for the owners of large grazing properties to lease out  segments of those properties.  Those segments were known as paddocks and each paddock would comprise several acres and sometimes had a shepherd’s hut built on it.  The shepherd’s wife and/or older children were quite often employed by the homestead as domestic servants, labourers, etc.  Molonglo and Willeroo  were such properties.  Another large property, Currawong, adjoined Willeroo.  Both of those properties were owned by the Cooper families.

Molonglo was originally a 100 acre property granted in 1824 to Owen Bowen, a former convict. The property was situated approximately 30 kilometres south-east of Lake George and Bungendore.  By 1828, the property size had increased to 500 acres. By 1840, Molonglo had become famous for breeding some of the finest racehorses in the colonies. In 1861, gold was discovered on the property and it was opened up for diggers to take out leases.

Molonglo was sold in 1861 to a nearby property owner and absorbed into that property which was known as Carwoola.  In 1862, another adjacent property located in Primrose Valley was absorbed into Carwoola.  It had now increased to 25,000 acres.  A Georgian style mansion was built and even included a village for the employees with houses, store, blacksmith and a church. Carwoola eventually increased to 55,000 acres in size.

Quite often, the owner or manager of such properties, kept records of births, deaths and marriages, etc.  Some properties (stations) had populations equivalent to small villages.

The above information explains why a descendant’s occupation can be listed on one document as a shepherd, a labourer on another, or miner on yet another.  Many of our own Davis and related families were born on and employed at such properties. Some took out leases of their own. Others became gold miners, timber cutters and labourers on railway line constructions. Another (James Davis) was given a government land grant located near Captain’s Flat.

The descendants of our original ancestors in Australia, are now located all over the southern parts of NSW, the south coast to VIC,  many suburbs of Sydney,  mid and far north coast of NSW, stretching out as far west as Nyngan and Bourke,  and also located in areas around Tenterfield, Inverell, Armidale regions, southern QLD, NT and WA.  Those areas are the ones that have been uncovered by research.  There will definitely be many others, further afield. All place names and towns mentioned in these pages, are all located within NSW, unless shown otherwise.

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