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Inverness / Re: Rev. David Stuart (help!)
« on: Sunday 21 May 23 22:12 BST (UK)  »
My name is Bill Hutchinson. David Stuart was my  5 Greats Grandfather.

To my knowledge no one has ever been able to definitively determine who his parents were. Over  the years there have been numerous people who believed his Mother was Lucy Erskine, however, I have never seen anyone who could point to any record that might support this.

The identity of his Father is if possible even more elusive. Some people have claimed his Father was Charles Stuart, Earl of Moray. Again ,I have never seen anyone provide a link to a record supporting this. In fact, in this case there are actually records that seem to indicate Charles Stuart was not his Father.

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Inverness / Re: Rev. David Stuart (help!)
« on: Tuesday 24 November 15 14:35 GMT (UK)  »
It was certainly his being Catholic that led to James II being deposed. On the other hand I believe Charles II did not convert until near death.

If David Stuart was connected to the Royal Stuarts, I think the connection would have to go back to possibly a cousin, illegitimate sibling, etc of James I and VI. My understanding is James definitely was not Catholic and in fact was the target of several assassination plots by Catholic sympathizers. I believe Scotland actually started transforming from a Catholic country to a Protestant one during James' lifetime thanks to individuals like John Knox.

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Inverness / Re: Rev. David Stuart (help!)
« on: Monday 23 November 15 14:45 GMT (UK)  »
I really appreciate this response. I know at some point I had found a connection between the Scott family and Stuarts back in Scotland. I could not remember what it was, but I am pretty sure this is it.

Thanks again.

Bill

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Inverness / Re: Rev. David Stuart (help!)
« on: Saturday 21 November 15 17:36 GMT (UK)  »
I doubt anyone will ever be able to definitively determine who the parents of David Stuart were or what connection he might have had to the Royal Stuarts.

While also probable impossible to prove, I do suspect he was more likely a well connected or educated Scotsman as opposed to being a farmer for example. I base this assumption on three factors-

1. His connection . sponsorship by the Reverend Alexander Scott. Scott clearly was a well
    educated and accomplished individual- the son of a well known Scottish minister. Scott came
    from Dipple Parish in Morayshire, Scotland. That may very well imply a connection between
    the Stuart and Scott families.

2. David Stuart's marriage to Jane Gibbons. She certainly came from a prominent English family
    and might not have been likely to have married and uneducated person.

3. From almost the moment he returned to America after receiving his orders, David Stuart
    became connected to the most prominent families of the Northern Neck and certainly became
    one of the most prominent individuals in King George / Stafford Counties.


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Inverness / Re: Rev. David Stuart (help!)
« on: Saturday 21 November 15 04:04 GMT (UK)  »
Hello. My name is Bill Hutchinson. I just saw your post and while I realize it is many months old, I thought I would reply anyway. John Gibbons Stuart is also my ancestor- my 5 Greats Grandfather.

My information has always indicated David was born in 1697 at Inverness. He supposedly did come to America in 1715 as he had to flee Scotland because of his support for James Francis Stuart. He probably was connected to the Royal Stuarts although I doubt as close as a first cousin. I say this if for no other reason than that the Royal Stuarts lived (and most were born) in England starting in 1603 when James I and VI inherited the English throne. Since David was born in Scotland, he was probably something like a 3rd or 4th cousin.

My understanding is he did return to England in around 1722 to complete whatever the process was to be ordained as an Episcopal priest. Supposedly, he was sponsored by Reverend Alexander Scott which is how he was able to overcome his Jacobite history. It was while he was in England that he met Jane Gibbons. Her sister was Scott's wife.

All sources I have seen do suggest that Lucy Erskine was his Mother. I have also seen the references to Charles Stuart as being his Father, however, my research concurs with yours that there is no record of that gentlemen either marrying Lucy Erskine or having children.

I am curious- what is your descent from John Stuart? My 2 Greats Grandmother was Mary Wray Stuart. Her parents were 1st cousins. Her Mother was Frances Maria Wray Stuart, daughter of John Alexander Stuart who was a son of John Gibbons Stuart. Her Father was William Gibbons Stuart, son of Philip Stuart who was also a son of John Gibbons Stuart.

Bill

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