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Derbyshire / Re: William SHAW, Surgeon. Whitwell and Clowne c1830's.
« on: Sunday 26 October 25 06:35 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: amondg on Sunday 26 October 25 03:06 GMT (UK)
George Shaw of 1841 is on the 1851 census.
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Possible George Shaw - Farmer married Ann Newton 5 January 1844 by license Parish Church Worksop

His father William - Whitesmith
Her father Thomas -  Labourer
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Stamford Mercury 29 February 1856

At Worksop on the 23rd instant Mr. George Shaw, son of the late Mr. Shaw Ironmonger age 38.

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He was buried 26th February at St. Mary and St. Cuthbert, Worksop

Wow.  Thank you for this.  The two George’s have always been an issue.  My George, the other one, said he was born out of county on the 1841.  He must fit into the family somehow being a Whitesmith.

Bitzar.

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Derbyshire / Re: William SHAW, Surgeon. Whitwell and Clowne c1830's.
« on: Saturday 25 October 25 05:49 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: maddys52 on Saturday 25 October 25 01:09 BST (UK)
The marriage is on FreeReg
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/684e89b9865574398bb4270e

It was by licence - I'm not sure where you may be able to locate the actual licence?

Thanks Maddy.  This is the only one I could see too.

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Derbyshire / Re: William SHAW, Surgeon. Whitwell and Clowne c1830's.
« on: Saturday 25 October 25 05:48 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: amondg on Saturday 25 October 25 03:36 BST (UK)
The wills are going to be important.Do keep us updated.
 I'm not sure you have the correct George bap 1817 but you say was born 1798.  I know it says William Shaw - Ironmonger as his father.

1841 Census Worksop
Mary Shaw 70  Independent
George Shaw 23   (born circa 1817)
William Shaw 8   (is this William and Mary possibly nee Mason's son William born 1832?)

This George Shaw on the 1841 is an interesting one.  There is definitely something not quite right with one George Shaw.  The George on the census you attached can’t be traced after 1841 from memory.

Bitzar.

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Derbyshire / Re: William SHAW, Surgeon. Whitwell and Clowne c1830's.
« on: Friday 24 October 25 22:39 BST (UK)  »
Hello all,

If anyone has access could you please check the 1829 marriage at Mansfield of Mary MASON to Wm Shaw.  It could be a possibility.

Many thanks.

bitzar.

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Derbyshire / Re: William SHAW, Surgeon. Whitwell and Clowne c1830's.
« on: Friday 24 October 25 14:39 BST (UK)  »
Hi all,

Thanks for all your info.  The death I had originally for Wm I must of typed 1830 instead of 1837 because the burial date was correct.  I g**gled how to become a Surgeon in the 1830's and AI interestingly enough gave a few examples of apprenticeships, medical school, mentorship, etc.  I'd be interested to know more about this.

I have had another thread about the children of William SHAW and Mary UNWIN.  They had another son George baptised in 1817 (but born c1798), probably as an adult even though the register doesn't say so.  He is my x3 gr grandfather and was also in the 'smith' trade.

I found a doc that read Mary Shaw, widow of Clowne and children were removed to Mansfield Notts in 1844.  We know that Elizabeth Thompson was with the daughters Mary and Anne at The Seminary School in Worksop in 1841, and James was with the Malthouses.

I'll be following up all the other suggestions and the wills.

Many thanks.

bitzar.

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Derbyshire / William SHAW, Surgeon. Whitwell and Clowne c1830's.
« on: Friday 24 October 25 03:36 BST (UK)  »
Hello all,

I'm tidying up a few families including my Shaw family of Worksop, Notts.  I had my William Shaw born 20 June 1807 at Worksop, s/of William Shaw and Mary Unwin and death 07 Dec 1830 at Worksop.  Now looking at his death, I have nil idea how I know this and am revisiting it!

William's sister Elizabeth born c1794 at Worksop most likely married Thomas THOMPSON in Worksop in 1820  (Witnesses, M Shaw and Eliza Unwin).  On the 1851 she is at Kingston upon Hull without her husband but with her daughter Eliza and niece Mary aged 16 born at Whitwell, Derbyshire.  On the 1841 Elizabeth is at the Seminary in Worksop with both her daughters, Eliza and Marianne.  At the Seminary are also Mary and Anne SHAW, not born in county.  Why would they be at the Seminary?

Back at Whitwell, there are baptisms for Mary, Anne, and William SHAW in 1834 on the same day with actual birthdates of the children listed.  James is baptised in Clowne in 1837.  On the register their father William is listed as a Surgeon.  It's possible James is on the 1841 with another family aged 4.

Something must of happened to William and Mary but I can't see anything likely.  I also can't find a likely marriage for them.

I'm also not used to having Surgeon's in my family of Ironmongers...

Any help appreciated.

bitzar.

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Australia / Re: Mother's name 094?
« on: Monday 20 October 25 23:33 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

If fairly sure it's his age.  Died/Registered at Waratah aged 94.  The person above died/registered at Ashfield aged 73. 

NSW online index's are 'interesting'!

bitzar.

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Staffordshire / Re: Transportation of George Doleman
« on: Tuesday 16 September 25 03:07 BST (UK)  »
From about 1857 a George DOLMAN, bootmaker, had a shop at 47 Parramatta St, Sydney. 

He opened a 2nd shop in 1865 at Brickfield Hill. 

In 1872 he advertised he was moving his Parramatta St shop after 15 years to 64 Chowne St, Pyrmont. 

In 1874 he advertised he was also moving premises from 47 Parramatta St to 70 Parramatta St. 

In 1881 he was moving his shop from Glebe St to Mitchell St.  These street's are in Glebe.

In 1893 a George DOLMAN inserts a notice for the funeral of his wife Margaret, to leave 125 Mitchell St, Glebe to The Necropolis.  (DOLMAN, Margaret. 5954/1893.  District Glebe).  I can't find this record on the Rookwood online search.

Later in 1893 a George DOLMAN dies at St. Mary's and is buried at St. Mary's.

Are these the same George and Margaret?

bitzar.

EDIT:  George's first wife Maria is buried at St. Lukes, Liverpool, NSW 04 Jan 1843.  Shoe makes wife.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Irish Orphans
« on: Sunday 06 July 25 08:36 BST (UK)  »
https://irishfaminememorial.org

There are also assorted facebook groups you can join.

bitzar.

P.S.  My x3 gr grandmother arrived per Eliza Caroline in 1850.

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