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Australia / Re: David WALKER 1854 help please
« on: Friday 06 November 15 13:28 GMT (UK)  »
Hi David
Thanks, I have received all of your messages (private and otherwise) and thank you for all the information relating to Mary Stott and her ancestors, which is very helpful, and wish you luck with your future sleuthing!
Best Wishes
Liz

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Australia / Re: David WALKER 1854 help please
« on: Wednesday 04 November 15 17:30 GMT (UK)  »
Hi
I am glad to help, I got the records from FindMyPast.  I only searched on David Walker and his approx birth +/- 5 years  into the search on their section "England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935".  Then I examined all the records that came up that either did not have a birth date or were within a few years. 
These originated with National Archives I think, as follows:
1. Reference: PCOM2: Millbank Prison, Middlesex: register of prisoners, Piece number: 32, Page number: 139.
2. HO24, Source: Home Office: Pentonville Prison Registers; Piece No. 116; page number
others: HO8, Dartmoor quarter returns, Piece numbers: 113, 114, 117, 118, 119, 120.

3. Piece 119: No 26 of Prison Book: First name(s): David, Last name: Walker, Age: 33, Birth year: 1818, Year: 1851, Date: 08 Apr 1851, Prisoner number: 1417, Court: Northallerton, Crime: Stealing a pair of trousers & a sheet & pre. con., Sentence duration: 7, Surgeon’s Report, Behaviour during the quarter, Number of Preceding Musters are all blank; Remarks: died 24th February 1854, This was the quarterly return 31st March 1854 of Dartmoor Prison.

Plus there were 2 from Ancestry, one in relation to his imprisonment in 1850 for one month for larceny, and one referring to his trial in April 1851.  I was also able to find him in the 1851 census which was taken on 30th March 1851.  His wife Isabella at this stage was in Ellingstring, and is described as an ag.lab., indeed that is what she was described as in 1841 census too when she was also in Ellingstring.

Re Mary Stott's marriage to David Walker (father of David we are discussing) - I understand they married in Masham?

I would love some further info re the Stotts.  All I know is that James Stott married Elizabeth, but not who she was or where they married.  I know they had an older son, Thomas, and younger son James, and daughter Susanna.  One of the witnesses for Mary Stott's marriage to William Vayro was Susannah Stott, presumably her sister.  I also think that James Stott was still alive in 1841, living in Masham, and described as a stonemason, aged 65.  Does that fit with your information?

I am not sure how to send/receive private messages.


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Australia / Re: David WALKER 1854 help please
« on: Monday 02 November 15 17:59 GMT (UK)  »
Hi
If in the meantime you have found what happened to David WALKER, b 1821 in Ellingstring, Blacksmith, who was sentenced to 7 years transportation in 1851 at Northallerton, then I hope that my public reply might help some others looking for answers.
I am as certain as I can be that the following is what happened to him.  He wasnt transported, but ended his days in Dartmoor Prison: 24th Feb 1854.
I have followed what happened to him in the prison records, obtained from a commercial family history site, and the records essentially all confirm that it is this David Walker (confirmed by his trial date and place and occupation and age).  I am descended from his half-brother William Vayro.  Thus we share a direct ancestor: Mary Stott (my 3X grand-mother).
He was in Northallerton prison till 3rd Oct 1851 when he was transferred to Millbank Prison.  On 8th Nov 1851 he was transferred to Pentonville. He was there till 2nd Aug 1852.  The record says he was transferred to Portsmouth, but I dont have any record of him there.  However shortly thereafter he appears in the Dartmoor Prison records from the quarter ending Sept 1852 and through to his death on 24th Feb 1854.  Whilst in Northallerton it says he was suffering from scrofula (tuberculosis of the neck lymph glands, often caught by drinking infected milk), and in fact was first rejected by the surgeon for transfer to Pentonville.  In the Dartmoor records he is described as scrofulous, and latterly "delicate".  My guess is therefore that his death registration record is: Name: David Walker, Registration Year: 1854, Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun, Registration district: Tavistock, County: Devonshire, Volume: 5b, Page: 213.
I hope this helps.
Liz

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