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Europe / ITALIAN BIRTH CERTIFICATES
« on: Monday 21 May 18 23:47 BST (UK)  »
I have an original baptism certificate from Naples which shows birth date (3 Jan 1922) and baptism date (8 Jan 1922).  The certificate also shows parents names and witnesses at the baptism.  Is this the same as an Italian birth certificate?  If not, does anyone know how to apply for an Italian birth certificate?
Thanks in anticipation.

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The Common Room / Re: ** POSTEMS on FreeBMD **
« on: Monday 21 May 18 23:42 BST (UK)  »
Hi
Over the years I have bought many certificates from GRO.  I am a transcriber for FreeReg Kent but didn't know about putting information from the certificates in FreeBMD.  I have not had a lot of luck using FreeBMD.  I am willing to input the information if I know how to.
Regards
Dianne

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Australia Lookups completed / Re: William ASHELFORD - Transportation 1850
« on: Monday 19 December 16 21:17 GMT (UK)  »
Sorry that should be "arriving 28 Dec 1866".
Dianne

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Australia Lookups completed / Re: William ASHELFORD - Transportation 1850
« on: Monday 19 December 16 21:16 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Aylsa
I also had a look for Asheford, rather than Ashelford, but no luck either.  I found a William Ashford, born 1818, who has an assisted passage out to Queensland arriving 28 Dec 1966 on the Ocean Empress but that is as close as I could get.
Dianne

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Buckinghamshire Lookup Requests / Re: Sarah (Saria) PARSONS of Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire
« on: Wednesday 18 November 15 03:21 GMT (UK)  »
Hi JM

A mystery as to why that comment appears on the manifest in the way it is written.  The record is definitely my 2 x great grandfather Thomas Nelson Parsons, brother to Sarah/Saria Parsons and Emma Elizabeth Parsons.  Their parents, Thomas John Parsons and Hannah Nelson, were married in St Marys, Aylesbury 1835 which was then an Anglican church.  There is no mentioin of religion on Thomas' birth certificate and I don't have Emma's birth certificate (if it is available as she was born in 1837).  I have double checked all Census and the ages and names of the children and parents tie in with my Parsons family.  Only anomoly is the 1841 Census where Emma is listed as 'Ann 3'.  They didn't have an Ann and 3 is about right for Emma born in 1837.

Emma married Ninian Scouller in 1857 under Presbyterian rights.  She remarried Obed West Jnr 25 January 1886 (story and half there) under Presbyterian rights.  On her death certificate she is classified as C of E and buried in the Church of England Cemetery at Waverly.  The informant on her death cert is her son-in-law Percy Alford.  He has cofirmed that her father was William but has put her name (Emma Elizabeth) for her mother instead of Hannah.  He states she was 18 when she married Ninian and 48 when she married Obed.  Her marriage certificate to Ninian states she was 25 probably for purposes of the 'marriage shop' you mentioned.

Thomas Nelson Parsons was married to Isabella Whittle in 1870 under C of E rights.  He then married again to Jessie McClaren Murray 1897 under Independent Baptist Church rights.  He is buried in Church of England Cemetery at Woronora.

I have ordered the marriage certificate for Sarah Parsons and Francis John Collins but don't have much confidence in it being her.  One of the problems with the indexes is that there is no age listed so very hard to tell which of multiple index records in one name actually is the one you are looking for.  I would have to look for the other certificates I have bought now but when I find them I will put them up on that site you mentioned.  One of them was for a Sarah Parsons death in 1908, I think, but she was 92 years old...way to old for my Sarah.  If the age at death had been on the index I would never have bought it.

I apologise for the cut and paste and certainly won't do it again...I am learning.

Thank you ever so much for all the information and help.
Regards
Dianne

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Hi JM

I am not sure why they are written incorrectly...maybe they just wrote down what Thomas Nelson Parsons told them.  It is interesting that the birth of Ninian John Scouller on 27 March 1858 (Emma and Ninian eldest child) in entered on page 2 of the back of the Family Bible but there is no mention of their marriage.  I have just received a transcript of their marriage certificate and there is not a lot on it.  It confirms that Ninian is from Scotland and Emma from England.  No parents for either are mentioned.  The certificate does confirm that Ninian reduced his age by 10 years and Emma increased hers by 5 years.  If she had put her real age of 19/20 she would have needed parental permission.  The witnesses are related to the Presbyterian Minister James Fullerton L L D.  At the bottom of the certificate is written "Birthplace, age and parent details were copied from Church Register No 370 on 12 Mar 1915".

I have just had another look at the 1851 Census and it definitely looks like an 'S' to me.  Also all the other children and ages are correct.  Except for the Family Bible and the 1851 Census, all other records are in the name of 'Sarah'.

JM I cannot find anything for Sarah/Saria in England or NSW.  There was a marriage of a Sarah Parsons to:

Name:    Sarah Parsons
Spouse Name:    Francis John Collins
Marriage Date:    1866
Marriage Place:    New South Wales
Registration Place:    Paterson, New South Wales
Registration Year:    1866
Registration Number:    2849

Would have made her 20 years old and Paterson is around the area but I have so many certificates for Sarah Parsons who have nothing to do with our family...I haven't bought this one...don't want to jinx myself.

As far as the Family Bible is concerned.  My cousin in Tasmania has it and we are not sure whether it was brought out by Thomas Nelson Parsons when he was 16 or whether he bought the Bible (and it is a large and heavy one) here and entered all the information into it.  Some of it is his writing but not all of it.  The first entry is 'Thos. John Parsons born May 16 1814'.  His wife Hannah Nelson is the next entry and she was "Born 1811, Married July 31, 1835'.

I have always had an interest in family history but did not start researching until late 2012.  My grandmother and I spend many years of weekends talking about family history but being stupid at no time did I write it down or record her recollections.  When I have doubted what she told me, my research has proven her correct so I now believe everything I remember.  I have my 2x great grandfather's photo album and my great grandmother's photo album and scrapbook.  I just can't identify all the photos as some them go back to 1870s and maybe 1860s.

Thanks ever so much for your help.
Regards
Dianne

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Hi again JM

James Henry Parsons and his wife Jane (nee Cook) came out to Australia on the Lloyds in Aug 1855.  James was Emma, Sarah and Thomas Nelson's uncle...the brother of their father Thomas John Parsons.  James and Jane brought out James' daughter Emma, son James (from a previous marriage), Jane's daughter Alice from previous marriage and their son Thomas John.  They travelled separately from Emma Elizabeth and I wonder if she actually knew them.  James and Jane had a daughter Susannah in 1857 born in Raymond Terrace.  The family moved to Patricks Plain which is an early name for Singleton.  It is a small world as Susannah Parsons married James Milligan in 1875 and I have been corresponding with a person who is descendant of the Milligan family...small world.

Bucksboy...how do I contact BuckFHS?  I will hopefully learn a lot more about my family through them but won't be half as much fun as going there myself.  I will be over there in 2017 so will still go to Aylesbury to sight the records myself.

Thanks again
Dianne

The comment on the Wanata manifest is "Sisters Sarah & Emma Parsons living at Newcastle New South Wales".  Emma was 9 years older than Sarah.  I checked to see if there was a Sarah Scouller (a sister to Ninian John Scouller Emma married) but there wasn't.

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Hi JM

Thank you very much.  I did actually have this information but not in this format which has been very helpful.  Now to find a similar immigration manifest for Sarah/Saria Parsons who was supposed to be living in Newcastle NSW when Thomas Nelson Parsons arrived on 3 Sep 1864.
Regards
Dianne

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Hi Steve

Thank you very much for trying.  I do have the Sarah's English birth certificate which is where I found some of the info I have on my tree.   I also tried to get a copy of the marriage certificate for her parents in 1835 but unfortunately certificates are not available before 1837.  I have source records for marrage of Thomas John and Hannah Nelson and the marriage of William Parsons and Elizabeth Fleet.  I hope in 2017 to go over to Aylesbury and see if I can find more information on this Parsons family in the Parish records.  It is very frustrating when someone seems to vanish off the face of the earth like Sarah has.
Regards
Dianne

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