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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Elizabeth Parkin b1816 Leeds
« on: Wednesday 08 August 18 08:44 BST (UK)  »
Assuming that I've got the right birth registrations:

Emma - 1844 - Leeds - mmn = Hall
Alfred - 1848 - Leeds - mmn = Hall

Marriage:  Leeds - 1840 - John Parkin and Elizabeth Hall appear on the same page.  Marriage at St Peter, 25 December 1840:

John Parkin, fa, Cloth dresser of Woodhouse.  Father:  James, Labourer
Elizabeth Hall (x), fa, of Woodhouse.  Father:  William, Cloth Dresser
  Yes this is Elizabeth's brother, His wife later dies & he remarries.   All children of the family except Edwin & Charles (whom i think were Elizabeth Parkin(sister) were registered.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Elizabeth Parkin b1816 Leeds
« on: Wednesday 08 August 18 07:55 BST (UK)  »
Thank you, it's a confusing family! I just can not find elizabeth anywhere!

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Family History Beginners Board / Elizabeth Parkin b1816 Leeds
« on: Tuesday 07 August 18 15:38 BST (UK)  »
Hello,
Could you help me locate the whereabouts of Elizabeth?
She was born in Leeds 1816 to James Parkin & Mary Higham, she has 1 sister Rebecca  b1818 & 1 brother John b 1821.
She is on the 1841 census living with her parents, her brother John 1821, John's wife  Elizabeth b 1826, Charles Rose (mystery) b 1838 Edwin & Charles Parkin b 1840/1841 (these are mostly likely to be Elizabeths illegitimate children) & i can't quite make out the last child.. Alfred Holt??  (yet another mystery)
After this she vanishes, can't find birth registers for Edwin & Charles either!  ???

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The Common Room / Re: How can you prove/disprove theories & assumptions?
« on: Tuesday 13 March 18 14:45 GMT (UK)  »
How do you know she was born at Gresham? The dates you give hint at the 1841, which only confirms the county. On the 1861/71 census she lists Gresham as her place of birth.

If you have a cross-reference, Ancestry show a birth and naming of a Mary Lynes at Runton 20 Jun 1795, daughter of Thomas & Sarah. Runton is less than 4 miles from Gresham.  I shall have a look at this, thank you.

Remember that Mary could easily have been in service far away from her birthplace when she married.

I was recently looking at a family from that general area, and as agricultural labourers they moved around from parish to parish. They were in 8 different parishes within a 6 mile radius of Cley Next The Sea - and there's only a semicircle of land involved. :)

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The Common Room / Re: How can you prove/disprove theories & assumptions?
« on: Tuesday 13 March 18 09:26 GMT (UK)  »
So it would appear that i can not go any further back from Mary as there is nothing that is credible enough to help.
How incredibly frustrating.  :(

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The Common Room / Re: How can you prove/disprove theories & assumptions?
« on: Tuesday 13 March 18 09:24 GMT (UK)  »
Ancestry have the images for the Bond and Allegation - Archdeaconry of Norwich - image 17 for 1817.

Both parties are single and are aged 22 and upwards.  Henry is a Mariner.
  Were you able to read what it said under "holden & firmly bound to"?

That's interesting thank you i missed it. The chap who put up the bond Charles lamb i shall have to look into, they named a daughter for him, Celia Lamb 1823-1828 transcribed Selah.

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The Common Room / How can you prove/disprove theories & assumptions?
« on: Monday 12 March 18 22:02 GMT (UK)  »
Evening all,
So for the longest time i've been looking for further information on Mary Lines born between 1791/95 in Gresham Norfolk, she married Henry Butters on 20th October 1817 in Morston. I could never find anything on her "origins".  Today i found an entry for the Norfolk records office
Title   Marriage licence bond: Henry Butters and Mary Lines
Date   16 Oct 1817
Description   Groom’s parish: Morston.
Bride’s parish: Burnham Thorpe.
Parish of intended marriage: Morston.

So looking up Burnham Thorpe on ancestry there are no Lines there, births, deaths etc. So i just put in Mary rough birth & Burnham Thorpe, the nearest in Ives, do you think an Ives is possibly a Lines??
 Mary Ann Ives
17 Oct 1797   Baptism   Burnham Thorpe   Theophilus & Mary

Just as a side note Horatio Nelson was born in Burnham Thorpe in 1758!  ;D

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The Common Room / Re: John Hall Parkin
« on: Tuesday 06 March 18 19:43 GMT (UK)  »
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This could be the John Gaines (lodger) though likely connected to the stepmother that is living with John on the 1871 census. He was a bricklayer too.

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The Common Room / John Hall Parkin
« on: Tuesday 06 March 18 18:50 GMT (UK)  »
Hello all, can any one cast an eye over a chap called John Hall Parkin & see if you can find him after 1871? He was born in Leeds 1850 to John Parkin & Elizabeth Hall. His mother died in 1851 & His father remarried Sarah Gaines. I have him on the 51/61 & 71 census & then nothing.

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