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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Latin deed 1594
« on: Thursday 22 October 15 18:16 BST (UK) »
That is everything I had hoped for. Many, many thanks Bookbox!
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Latin deed 1594
« on: Tuesday 20 October 15 13:51 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for your help horselydown86. I can, with some difficulty, make out the words you describe. I was unfamiliar with the copyhold system, but am now reading a little about this. I shall see if there are any corresponding Manorial records, which might reveal a little more about James.
William mentions these same properties in his own will of 1619, so I am assuming they were able to be passed on as inheritance.
If anyone with experience of reading faded abbreviated Latin can provide any additional details I'd be very grateful!
William mentions these same properties in his own will of 1619, so I am assuming they were able to be passed on as inheritance.
If anyone with experience of reading faded abbreviated Latin can provide any additional details I'd be very grateful!
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Latin deed 1594
« on: Friday 16 October 15 12:49 BST (UK) »
I believe this is a ‘surrender’ dated 11 April 1594 between Jhames Brydge and William Brydge his son, for properties named ‘Shovells’, ‘Orchards’ and ‘Woodend’
Is there anything in the document that indicates where either of them were born, or lived in 1594? (I think I have parish records indicating James’s marriage and William’s christening in Ledbury, which is 5 miles from Bosbury, which is where I think the land is. )
The top left has the place name Upledon , Temple Court .
What is the significance of a place name In the top left? Is it where the land is situated, or the local manor where the deed is registered? Is it the freehold owner of the land, and are they named?
Is there anything that indicates why this land was being passed on? (Marriage settlement ?)
I can just about make out the names but not much else. Which part confirms that it is his son?
I understand that a lot of this will be standardised phrases. Can anyone point me towards a similar already transcribed example, which I could use to get me started?
Is there anything in the document that indicates where either of them were born, or lived in 1594? (I think I have parish records indicating James’s marriage and William’s christening in Ledbury, which is 5 miles from Bosbury, which is where I think the land is. )
The top left has the place name Upledon , Temple Court .
What is the significance of a place name In the top left? Is it where the land is situated, or the local manor where the deed is registered? Is it the freehold owner of the land, and are they named?
Is there anything that indicates why this land was being passed on? (Marriage settlement ?)
I can just about make out the names but not much else. Which part confirms that it is his son?
I understand that a lot of this will be standardised phrases. Can anyone point me towards a similar already transcribed example, which I could use to get me started?
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: 1587 will - I can hardly read any of it!
« on: Monday 05 October 15 15:45 BST (UK) »
Ray and DebPat,
Many thanks indeed for this. I am amazed at how quickly and clearly you can make sense of this. It is a skill I shall try to develop!
One other newbie question. The National Archives system is down for maintenance today but from memory someone has tagged this will with a note that an earlier will is held at 'hro'. I have searched Herefordshire Record Office and can find no bridges wills earlier than 1671, What else could 'hro' be referring to?
Many thanks indeed for this. I am amazed at how quickly and clearly you can make sense of this. It is a skill I shall try to develop!
One other newbie question. The National Archives system is down for maintenance today but from memory someone has tagged this will with a note that an earlier will is held at 'hro'. I have searched Herefordshire Record Office and can find no bridges wills earlier than 1671, What else could 'hro' be referring to?
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / 1587 will - I can hardly read any of it!
« on: Monday 05 October 15 10:24 BST (UK) »
I know it is good etiquette to make a good stab at deciphering, before asking for help on the last bits, but I am making no sense of this at all. It is the will of James Bridges 1587 from Weobley in Herefordshire. I am particularly interested in family members and placenames.
In the name of God Amen I James Bridges[sick] in body but in perfect memory thanks to almighty God make my last will and testament in manner and forme following. First I bequeath my [soul] to Almighty God and my bodye to be buried in this ---- ---
Item I give unto the ------ ----- of Weobley twelve -----
Item I give unto the poore of Weonley four pound in money
Item I give and bequeath to John my ----- ----- and ----- ----
Item Also I will that --- ---- John shall --- of my fam of --- during his natural life the --- of ---- pound of --- English money.
Item I give unto Catherine my daughter one hindred marks of ---- English money to be paid unto her ny my ----- ---- within one year --- after my decease and
In the name of God Amen I James Bridges[sick] in body but in perfect memory thanks to almighty God make my last will and testament in manner and forme following. First I bequeath my [soul] to Almighty God and my bodye to be buried in this ---- ---
Item I give unto the ------ ----- of Weobley twelve -----
Item I give unto the poore of Weonley four pound in money
Item I give and bequeath to John my ----- ----- and ----- ----
Item Also I will that --- ---- John shall --- of my fam of --- during his natural life the --- of ---- pound of --- English money.
Item I give unto Catherine my daughter one hindred marks of ---- English money to be paid unto her ny my ----- ---- within one year --- after my decease and
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Herefordshire / Margaret Vaughan of Courtfield; Which source to trust?
« on: Tuesday 08 September 15 22:55 BST (UK) »
I am researching Margaret Vaughan of Courtfield (abt 1575-1655), She married William Bridges (Brydges) of Upleadon. The Vaughan pedigree is listed in Burke's Commoners:
"He m. Margaret, daughter of John Vaughan, esq. of Courtfield, in Monmouthshire, descended through the Vaughans of Tretower, Clyro, &c. from Sir Roger Vaughan, who married Gwladis,t daughter of Sir David Gam, and was slain with that distinguished warrior at Azincourt. Margaret Brydges,after the death of her husband, removed to Larport's Court, Mordiford, Herefordshire,
where she died, and in the church there is a monument, with her effigy in a kneeling
posture, and the following epitaph :
Here lyeth ye body of Margaret, ye daughter of .... (sic) Vaughan, of Courtfield, in the county of
Monmouth, gent, and the late wife and widow of William Brydges, of Upleadon,..."
Burke's Peerage and Baronetage gives more detail:
"John Vaughan, Esq. of Welsh Bicknor, co. Monmouth, and Clifford Park, co. Hereford, living 1634, m. Anne, dau. of Richard Lyngen, Esq. ; and was father of two daus. (Mary, m. to John, eldest son of Sir William Jones, of Dingestow, co. Monmouth ; and Margaret, m. to William Bridges, of Upleadon, co. Hereford) and of three sons, Richard, his heir; John, called of Raglan, in family deed, 1639 ; and Thomas, in holy orders, ordained 1627."
So Margaret was the daughter of John Vaughan and Anne Lyngen...
However William's memorial in Bosbury church reads ...
"GULIELMI BRYDGES de Upleadon hujus Parochiae Situ Generosi Nec-non THOMAE BRYDGES, Gen Filii natu quarti Gulielmi et Uxoris ejus MARGARETTAE Filiae WILLM VAUGHAN de Court-Field"
"WILLIAM BRYDGES of Upleadon situated in this parish of good family and also THOMAS BRYDGES born the fourth son of WILLIAM and his wife MARGARET daughter of WILLIAM VAUGHAN Esquire of Courtfield in the land of Monmouth"
and her memorial in Mordiford also states 'William' as her father:
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3269082
I guess that solid stone (alabaster?) beats Burke. However the temptation with Burke is that he alludes to an illustrious past, including knights at Agincourt!
Is there anywhere I can find confirming evidence, or take the pedigree further back?
"He m. Margaret, daughter of John Vaughan, esq. of Courtfield, in Monmouthshire, descended through the Vaughans of Tretower, Clyro, &c. from Sir Roger Vaughan, who married Gwladis,t daughter of Sir David Gam, and was slain with that distinguished warrior at Azincourt. Margaret Brydges,after the death of her husband, removed to Larport's Court, Mordiford, Herefordshire,
where she died, and in the church there is a monument, with her effigy in a kneeling
posture, and the following epitaph :
Here lyeth ye body of Margaret, ye daughter of .... (sic) Vaughan, of Courtfield, in the county of
Monmouth, gent, and the late wife and widow of William Brydges, of Upleadon,..."
Burke's Peerage and Baronetage gives more detail:
"John Vaughan, Esq. of Welsh Bicknor, co. Monmouth, and Clifford Park, co. Hereford, living 1634, m. Anne, dau. of Richard Lyngen, Esq. ; and was father of two daus. (Mary, m. to John, eldest son of Sir William Jones, of Dingestow, co. Monmouth ; and Margaret, m. to William Bridges, of Upleadon, co. Hereford) and of three sons, Richard, his heir; John, called of Raglan, in family deed, 1639 ; and Thomas, in holy orders, ordained 1627."
So Margaret was the daughter of John Vaughan and Anne Lyngen...
However William's memorial in Bosbury church reads ...
"GULIELMI BRYDGES de Upleadon hujus Parochiae Situ Generosi Nec-non THOMAE BRYDGES, Gen Filii natu quarti Gulielmi et Uxoris ejus MARGARETTAE Filiae WILLM VAUGHAN de Court-Field"
"WILLIAM BRYDGES of Upleadon situated in this parish of good family and also THOMAS BRYDGES born the fourth son of WILLIAM and his wife MARGARET daughter of WILLIAM VAUGHAN Esquire of Courtfield in the land of Monmouth"
and her memorial in Mordiford also states 'William' as her father:
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3269082
I guess that solid stone (alabaster?) beats Burke. However the temptation with Burke is that he alludes to an illustrious past, including knights at Agincourt!
Is there anywhere I can find confirming evidence, or take the pedigree further back?
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Gloucestershire Lookup Requests / Re: Thomas and Sarah Williams from Winchcombe
« on: Thursday 03 September 15 22:23 BST (UK) »
Capetown.
I am overwhelmed! That is an absolute treasure chest. It definitely looks to be what I'm looking for. Many thanks.
I am overwhelmed! That is an absolute treasure chest. It definitely looks to be what I'm looking for. Many thanks.
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Gloucestershire Lookup Requests / Thomas and Sarah Williams from Winchcombe
« on: Thursday 03 September 15 19:20 BST (UK) »
I'm trying to gather any information about Thomas and Sarah Williams of Winchcombe.
I can see a baptism entry for the birth of their daughter Mary 24 Dec 1798. Mary grew up to marry Thomas Brydges and is buried with him in St Peter's. We found the grave last week! That states 'Daughter of Thomas Williams of The Abbey', but I think that means a private house, because Winchcombe Abbey was destroyed in 16the century. Thomas Brydges was in the navy. His biography states 'Lieut Brydges married in 1827 the daughter of Thos. Williams Esq, an eminent solicitor'.
I'd like to discover birth records for Thomas & Sarah, and her maiden name. The trouble is this is a very common name, and I can't pin it down.
I can see a baptism entry for the birth of their daughter Mary 24 Dec 1798. Mary grew up to marry Thomas Brydges and is buried with him in St Peter's. We found the grave last week! That states 'Daughter of Thomas Williams of The Abbey', but I think that means a private house, because Winchcombe Abbey was destroyed in 16the century. Thomas Brydges was in the navy. His biography states 'Lieut Brydges married in 1827 the daughter of Thos. Williams Esq, an eminent solicitor'.
I'd like to discover birth records for Thomas & Sarah, and her maiden name. The trouble is this is a very common name, and I can't pin it down.
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