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Europe Resources & Offers / Re: World War 1 internments in UK - bibliography
« on: Sunday 16 August 15 13:01 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for ICRC link-yes it is a bit tricky. A few useful pointers on the index cards:

1]abbreviation 'all'=alleman [German]
2] bear in mind that French like being different :)-francophones usually use surnames first,as I just found,wasting my precious Sunday! So enter surname first.

I found my Richard Noschke no.42081 ,in the registers,listed at Sratford 'Stfd' where he was first interned,the index card dated 22.3.18 which would refer to repatriation date as the 2nd and last register entry is marked 'repatriated'. Under home address or birthplace on list 49,pg 1075 "3 Boston Rd,Hatherley Gardens,East Ham,London,E" plus birthplace:"Gross Lubholtz,Preussen". No mention of Alexandra Palace where his diary records that he spent most of his time after being transferred.

ICRC registers contain extensive lists of names,so well worth the search.

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Europe Resources & Offers / Re: World War 1 internments in UK - bibliography
« on: Sunday 16 August 15 10:19 BST (UK)  »
Hi Loo

Thanks for reply-Richard Constantin Noschke was my g-g uncle-only found out through online refs to his diary. According to my Noschke great uncle[his nephew],my g-g father August Friedrich Max Noschke [known as Max] b. 1867 in Gross Lubolz,Spreewald,Brandenburg State,in then Prussia,was somehow not rounded up in WW1 London,despite being the right age and looking so Prussian that people would shout insults at him...I've seen a family pic of him,even his moustache looked terribly "German"!

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Europe Resources & Offers / Re: Names of WW1 internees
« on: Saturday 15 August 15 12:57 BST (UK)  »
To very short list of Alexandra Palace detainees add my great-grandfather's brother:born in then Prussia 1867
Richard Constantin Noschke,china packer,of 3 Boston Road,Hatherley Gardens,East Ham,London,around 49 when detained in 1915.
He wrote a diary of his internment for his children which lies at the Imperial War Museum. His wife was English and he was voluntarily repatriated to Germany in 1918,not knowing the war was nearly over. His son was in British Army trenches in France at the time,gaining a medal! 3 members of this family including my grandmother altered their names to sound less German or completely English,my London-born grandmother never admitting that both her parents were German,so far as not being drawn when my brother approached her about obtaining a British ancestry passport!

Alistair Knox

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Midlothian / Re: SWAN of Liberton
« on: Friday 14 August 15 04:17 BST (UK)  »
"Just caught up with this thread and remembered that I too have Swan surnames in my tree from Liberton, Midlothian.....starting with William Swan b 1734 whom married a Margaret McAlpine.    They had a daughter Isabel b 1759 whom married a Adam Borthwick.    William and Margaret also had the following children...

Isabel b 1759
John b 1760
Janet b1763
James b 1766
Marion b 1768
William b 1772
Agnes b 1774
Margaret b 1776"

HI all-I may be direct descendant of James Swan b 1766 as my Edinburgh,Midlothian-born immigrant[Cape Town,South Africa 1879] g-g/father David Knox b circa 1844 was son of Alexander Knox b 1811 Liberton married to Catherine Swan b circa 1816 St Cuthberts,Midlothian,daughter of James Swan [miraculously conceived without female aid?] marriage record Liberton 1843. Alexander Knox was a railway porter at the time. James Swan died circa September 1862. I have 2 pics of handsome dark-haired woman who must be Catherine Swan in my g-g/pop's Edinburgh collection [photographer's details on back,unfortunately nobody thought to record names of subjects!]. With her is a serious-looking dark-haired girl-probably daughter Mary Knox.  I only have children David,Alexander and Mary so far. Am I on the right track? Could be cousins as James et al are very common Scots names and up to my pop's generation,middle names seem uncommon..

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