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Scotland / Re: Robertson's in Inverness and Orkney
« on: Thursday 13 August 15 15:21 BST (UK)  »
Hi Jenn,

I wrote a response, but for some reason it didn't seem to post.  (Or maybe I've now done it twice!)

I don't know from what part of this line that I descend.  My furthest back is Alexander Robertson, born circa 1772, in Scotland, but I am unsure where.  He was in the Royal Navy, and there are musters indicating different places ("Leith," "Glasgow," and a third just says "Scotland.")

I am searching among these Orkney Robertsons because y-dna testing places Alexander precisely among this line of Robertsons.  I am nearly an exact match with three different men that descend from three different sons of Thomas/Euphan (namely, George, Thomas, and Edward), one of them from that second marriage of Edward/Christina Groat, and am also a dna match (not quite as close, but again nearly exact) with another man who descends from further back in these Orkney Robertsons, namely, James Robertson, who came to Orphir in 1630 from Perthshire, establishing this line of Robertsons in Orkney.  He is no doubt also the ancestor of the Thomas/Euphan - George/Jean Gray line.

So, from this work, we know that my Alexander fits among these Robertsons, and that Thomas/Euphan the also descends from the 1630 James line.  I have run out a pretty big tree descending from James 1630 down, but haven't yet figured out how George/Jean fit in, nor how my Alexander does.  Though I know that they do fit together. 

Does this make sense?!  A challenge to explain without the trees available as a prop!

The help I need is filling in the Thomas/Euphan line down, and the Jame 1630 line as well, and identifying other currently living male Robertsons who might be willing to test to help fit these line together. 

There is a dna page of the Orkney Robertsons available, and that I can forward to you if you are interested!

Paul

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Scotland / Re: Robertson's in Inverness and Orkney
« on: Monday 10 August 15 18:18 BST (UK)  »
Aha!  I hadn't paid attention to that!  I had James Robertson under Edward Robertson's second marriage, to Christina Groat, and hadn't paid attention that James mother is listed as Margaret Sutherland in the statutory death records. I'll put James in the right place!  (I have lots on the Edward/Christina descendants, but had nothing on the Edward/Margaret Sutherland side.)

When you say the document for Thomas and Euphan's parents being George and Jean, do you refer to the baptism? That's what I used too, but I wasn't sure at first. But I was more persuaded when I got the rest of Thomas and Euphan's kids, and saw that the first girl was Jean, and the first boy was George, following Scottish naming patterns. Is that how you got there too?

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Scotland / Re: Robertson's in Inverness and Orkney
« on: Monday 10 August 15 16:55 BST (UK)  »
Hi Jenn,

You and I are stuck at the same place as we try to make the connection back.  Could I ask, do you descend down through the side of the Robertsons that went to the island of Walls, via George and Jean's son Thomas (married to Euphan Taylor)?  I am facing two road blocks - the one we talk about here, and also where my ancestor, Alexander, fits into this line at a later time, and I am trying to understand the tree to address that second block too.

Paul

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Scotland / Re: Robertson's in Inverness and Orkney
« on: Friday 07 August 15 03:25 BST (UK)  »
Hi Jenn,

It is more probable than not that George descends from one James Robertson, who supposedly arrived in Orphir in 1630 from Downie Hill, Strathardle, in Perthshire.  You can read about that Robertson family here: https://archive.org/stream/stemmatarobertso00robe#page/26/mode/2up.  I conclude that your Robertson family (George and Jean) is connected to this Robertson family because dna tests show matching in the descendants of both lines.  I do not know, however, exactly where the two lines tie together. 

Paul Robertson

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