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Don't think William is a direct descendant of mine but I am sure he is a family member. There are very few Triggs in Ireland but ALL are brush and bellows makers. Seems unusual. Thanks for info.

Hi Rob. I think I just made a boo boo. If you have received an unfinished reply my apologies. I mentioned that I was reading book of clonmel in the 1815s and times were very bad. Thomas could have been in the army but doubt it. He seems to be an established brush and bellows maker in Irish Town, they seem to be indiginous there they say. Funny about the red hair. All my aunts and uncles had it and now my daughter. Even my sons have red tinges, in the sun. I didn't give you Connies death  if you wanted it Sept 1963, She had one son Gerald who seems to have disappeared. No one has heard of him. I do have a photograph of Samuel, Sarah and my g parents Benjamin and Ada. Will search it out if you are interested. That is if I can work out how to send it. Look forward to the results from Trowel Margaret

Ancestry has the will on line. Lots of children all had a share. Hannah the eldest and single seemed to be the executor as we know it today. Address of Francis on will is Shortwood, Trowel. In other facts it has come up as trowel/cossall. Trowel is in Notts but don't think it is that one. Yes the money went down to our Samuel as both James and Lydia had died by the time the will was finalised so James obviously couldn't benefit. The siblings of Francis all got the same I think.  We must have been quite wealthy in the late 1700s. Wonder what Francis did for a living? Love to have been a fly on the wall then. I don't know about your family but the we have red hair scattered through the 3 generations. Benjamin Thorley had it too. Think it must have come from the Triggs. May support the Irish link. Although still not convinced on that as Trigg is not an Irish name. I hope we can get further with him. Will keep trying, will try the Clonmel family history again. As you say things are coming on line all the time. Will also try and find Joseph Goodlad again. I know I found his birth somewhere which I think could be a correct one as he had his age at death. Margaret

Yes. Benjamin John Thorley married Ada Hall. Birth 1.10.1871. Staveley. Bapt 6.12.71 Staveley. Married September 9th 1893 Ilkeston. Died 19November 1923. Heart attack. Children Benjamin Cyril
Known as Cyril 20 6 1898- Dec 16 1980, Winnie 26.2.1900- 2.7 1900,Constance May 2.7.1901 -
Ada Gladys 16.3.1903-4.6.1903, Mabel Gertrude 20.7.1905- 26.10.1998, Arthur Lawrence 5.7.1909-
6.1.1966. Celia Gladys 11.9.1912- 11.1.2010 known as Gladys. Dorothy Ada 28.12.1914- 12.2.2000
I knew all these living-family members very well.
I have Francis Thorley 1762 in Ilkeston m Sarah meakin 1787 at trowel/Cossall.
Father Emmanuel Thorley 1720-1789 m Ellen maples b 1722
Any help? Margaret

I have Benjamin Triggs wedding cert. Born Clonmel Ireland,Brushmaker. Father Thomas, Brush maker.
Thomas listed in uk and us directories 1801-1825 and in shearmans directory of Waterford  1839. Both list him as brush maker. Shearmans living main St Clonmel. I found another reference to a Francis Trigg living next door to Thomas in Irish town Clonmel wondered if this could be a relative, and living next door.
I have all info on both Benjamin and Sarah after marriage. Sarah's parents Joseph and Martha were farmers. Can't get much further with them although think I have Joseph's birth.   All I have proof of Benjamin's birth is father of Benjamin is Thomas. Can't get further in Clonmel. Margaret