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Dublin / Re: Ceppi family in Dublin
« on: Wednesday 15 July 15 14:38 BST (UK)  »
Also just happened to find this which may be of interest:

http://www.kildare.ie/ehistory/index.php/james-joyce-padraig-pearse-and-naas-parish-church/

Upon googling the surname Ciappa it seems fairly common, so I don't think the Ciappa boarding with Giovanni Carri is likely to be a Ceppi.

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Dublin / Re: Ceppi family in Dublin
« on: Wednesday 15 July 15 14:26 BST (UK)  »
Hello all,

Hope you don't mind me butting in here - I'm researching my GGGF, Giovanni/John Carri b.~1838 who came to Clonmel, Tipperary from the Como area in Italy.

I know from elderly family members' accounts that he supposedly travelled with his friend Giovanni/John Arigho - (or perhaps they met en route and ended up arriving together?), and they were both picture framers by trade. She knew that Arigho had a business in Christ Church Dublin from being told so in her childhood.

I found John Arigho's grave here: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=81555378&ref=acom

I wondered if anyone here had any further information on that journey from Italy/Switzerland or travel records for them arriving. I know they came on foot over the alps according to my grandmother. Other elderly relatives seem to think he came from Belaggio, so not too far from the Swiss border and Caneggio where Arigho came from. Giovanni Carri seemed to stop for about 10 years in London first, and appears on the 1861 and 71 census with a picture framing shop. There he met an Irish wife, hence his movement eventually to Clonmel. I also heard that he went to visit Bianconi along with his friend Arigho when they first arrived in Clonmel, though I can find no record of Arighos in Clonmel at that time.

It may of interest from the Ceppi perspective that in the 1861 census Giovanni Carri is listed alongside a boarder "Ciappa Giovanni", aged 22, a journeyman presumably in picture framing also. I worked out just from google searching Giovanni as a surname that it's likely the surname and forename are mixed up, as seems to be the case for a couple of the other residents in the house. Perhaps this is actually a Giovanni Ceppi?

Also my elderly relative said that they fled northern Italy because at the time families were being made to surrender land and their sons to the Austrian army.

Here is the ancestry link: http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1861&h=5727875&ti=5538&indiv=try&gss=pt&ssrc=pt_t80862312_p34427943590_kpidz0q3d34427943590z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgplz0q3dpid

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