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Travelling People / Re: Collins family
« on: Sunday 12 July 15 05:47 BST (UK)  »
Catone,

many thanks for all this.I hadnt seen the 1871 Collins entry,so that takes me a bit further.

The Moby entries are very intresting.Ive had a look round,and there are lots of travelling Mobeys,but this is the first time ive come across them.

The 1881 entry for Amelia,daughter of John and Betsy looks a very tempting candidate,the only thing thats putting me off is my Amys born 1876,this one is born 1880.


But then theres a registration for 1876 in that area.

Why would they have given their daughters age as nearly one if she was in fact five.And could they have done that?Would the enumerater have needed to see her?Im not really sure how it worked.

One clue is that John and Betsy didnt marry until Dec Quart 1879.This would have put there daughters  birth just after their marriage.

Would birth before marriage,and at 16 years old,have been frowned on then?

And would they have cared what the enumerator thought?

All these things im wondering about at the moment.

Betsys maiden name was Hearne,a well known traveller name.Ive been unable to find a Betsy or Elizabeth under any Herne variation who fits a traveller profile.

There were lots of traveller Hern/es in Kensington at that time as there was a large encampment at Notting Hill,even a Betsy Hern born 1866,but shes still with parents in 1881,so i keep searching for her,will post seperatly

John Mobeys wife was Amelia Huxley a/m/j 1859 kensington.Cant find anything that looks like her either.If Huxleys a traveller name its another ive never heard of.

Theres a 1901 entry for a William Mobey born 1870 Middlesex travelling hawker with several kids born Tunbridge Wells where my Frank Collins/Amy were married.Im wondering if this is Johns brother,though the age is four years different.

Some of the other travellers there are Davis.Caroline Moby married a Henry Davis,hawker.

Im going to have another trawl round now,any more thoughts and assistance greatly appreciated,

Many thanks,nel.
Hello
I'm related to the Mobeys and am happy to help with any information if I can.
 John William Mobey was my great grandfather. He was born March 1st 1860 in Shepherds Bush London and died Oct 12th 1930 in Brisbane Australia (where I am). He married Elizabeth Betsy Hearne b 1859 d 1908. They lived in Fullham for quite some time before emigrating to a Australia. He was the son of John Alfred Mobey and Amelia Oxley Huxley. His siblings were Caroline b 1862, Alfred b 1863, Thomas b 1865, Rhoda b 1868, Riley b 1870, James b 1872, Rosina b 1874, Frederick b 1875 and Amy b 1876. John Alfred Mobey b 1842 Shepherd Bush d 1912 Fullham, London was the son of Alfred Mobey b 1820 Cowley, Middlesex d 1887 London and  Caroline Brewer b 1824 Hammersmith d 1921 Fullham. Amelia Oxley Huxley was the daughter of William Oxley Huxley 1820 - 1895 and Caroline Shoesmith 1823-1887. Alfred Mobey was the son of John Moby 1787-1847 and Sarah Shelton. John Moby was the son of Richard Mobey 1760 -1826 and Ann Cox 1766.
Hope that bit of info helps. If you like go to ancestry.com and you can access my public tree. Quelch-Harrison.
Kind Regards
Doreen

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Travelling People / Re: Collins family
« on: Sunday 12 July 15 00:24 BST (UK)  »
You say, as far as you are aware, Mobey isn't a traveller name, but have a look at this traveller "Moby" family in 1881, in neighbouring caravan is the Light family (and in the Fulham area where Amy Mobey's birth was registered) -

RG11/72 Folio 32 Page 11
Caravan, Victoria Yard, Garden Row, Fulham, London

John Moby 21 General Dealer Middlesex Fulham
Betsy 22 Kent
Amelia? 8mo Middlesex Fulham

In 1871, John is with his parents John and Amelia, and siblings Caroline, Alfred, William and Riley, at 5 Melson? Street, Fulham (his dad John is Chair Caner and mum Amelia is a Hawker) RG10/67 Folio 90 Page 39 (Alfred Mobey married Emily Bone in Fulham 1884)

ps. Riley Mobey died Sept quarter 1874 age 4 Brentford 3a 57

I know this is likeley to be a bit late
but from my grandad Mobey's father (great grandad ?) and back
all the mobey's are Gypsies

and John  is common (at least 1 John Alfred) and I think an Amy too

- Gary John Mobey
Hi Gary
My great grandfather was John William Mobey who married Elizabeth Hearne.

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