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Antrim / Re: Baby Grave
« on: Friday 09 March 18 22:25 GMT (UK)  »
Most often I found that babies were buried back with other family members so, if not done already, could go back to where your grandfather or grandmother's parents were buried if they died before the baby . Families made the trip back to the townlands to these family burial areas.  Once  in a while, was lucky to find a death notice in one of the two Belfast newspapers at the Central Library which gave the burying ground (or area) where burial was occurred.  Best wishes with your search.

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Antrim / Re: Rashee Old Graveyard - Ballyclare
« on: Wednesday 21 October 15 01:12 BST (UK)  »
Flemings at Old Rashee Burying Ground
When I visited Old Rashee Burying Ground in Sept. 2013, there was a gravestone for Richard Fleming of Straypark still standing and listing some of his family buried there with him. 
My grandfather's first wife was Mary Agnes Elliott Hume and she was a great granddaughter of Richard Fleming.  Sadly she was on the final voyage of the Lusitania and was lost, her body never recovered.  She was also daughter of Samuel and Agnes Fleming Elliott listed in the Elliott list at Old Rashee.  Here is info I compiled on the Flemings who are known to be at Old Rashee

           Richard Fleming                          b. about 1801  d. 31/12/1878 Straypark
 wife    Agnes Montgomery Fleming         b. about 1805   d. 03/12/1841
 son     John Fleming                              b. about 1831   d. 07/06/1832
 dau    Janet Fleming                             b. about 1833-34  d, 15/01/1846
grandson William Montgomery Fleming    b. about 1862-63  d. 11/01/1870
   (Most likely son of John Fleming and first wife Mary Jane Elliott Fleming - need to check Kilbride Records)
son          John Fleming                         b. about 1839    d. 14/04/1918 Kilbride   b. 16/04/1918
first wife  Mary Jane Elliott Fleming        b. about 1834    d. 24/12/1870 Ballyclare
second wife Elizabeth Campbell Fleming b. about 1837    d. 15/05/1911Ballywee b. 16/05/1911
 son         Robert Graham Fleming          b. 09/06/1872   d. 24/06/1879 Ballyclare
 son         Richard Fleming                     b. 30/11/1873   d. 11/05/1903 Doagh   b. 13/05/1903


       Mary Fleming Patton                       b. about 1835   d. 12/12/1901 Ballyclare b. 14/12/1901
(Mary was daughter of Richard and Agnes Fleming)
 husband   Samuel Patton                      b. about 1836    d. 29/10/1901Ballyclare b.  31/10/1901

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Antrim / Re: Rashee Old Graveyard - Ballyclare
« on: Wednesday 21 October 15 00:16 BST (UK)  »
Elliotts at Old Rashee Burying Ground

        Samuel Elliott                b. about 1834   d. 19/04/1892 Doagh    b. 21/04/1892
wife  Mary Ann Strange Elliott b. 16/01/1830  d. 12/03/1901 Doagh
dau   Agnes Elliott Morton       b. 26/05/1868  d. 28/02/1907 Belfast   b. 02/03/1907
dau   Sarah Elliott                   b.14/11/1870   d. 16/04/1881 Doagh 
dau   Christina Strange Elliott  b. 15/04/1853  d, as child
dau   Jane Elliott                    b. 19/07/1854   d. as child

        Agnes Fleming Elliott      b. 21/01/1865  d. 06/11/1903 Belfast    b. 08/11/1903
       (first wife of Samuel Elliott, son of above Samuel and Mary Ann Elliott -he is buried at Kilbride next to son, Henry Elliott, from second marriage.   Agnes is also granddaughter of Richard Fleming who's family gravestone is present at Old Rashee; daughter of John and  his first wife Mary Jane Elliott Fleming also listed on gravestone)
son   Samuel Elliott                 b. 01/03/1883  d. 01/09/1905 Belfast  b. 03/09/1905
son   John Fleming Elliott         b. 02/12/1884  d. 27/06/1905 Belfast  b. 29/06/1905
dau   Mary Ann Strange Elliott  b. 19/01/1887  d. 25/02/1887 Doagh
  (These are children of Agnes and Samuel Elliott)

         Agnes Elliott Hoy            b. 04/12/1905   d. 14/04/1907 Belfast  b. 15/04/1907
   (Child of Jane Elliott Hoy and John Hoy who are buried at New Rashee Cemetery; Granddaughter of above Samuel and Mary Ann Strange Elliott)


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Antrim / Re: Old Rashee Burying Ground-STRANGE;ELLIOTT
« on: Thursday 01 October 15 10:58 BST (UK)  »
Dear lollyjo,
I am writing to clarify that my great great great grandfather, William Barklie Strange, was born in Northern Ireland either 1787 or 1797 (likely around Carrickfergus), was a weaver, and died in Whiteabbey, Co. Antrim, Northern Ireland in 1866.  He never emigrated to America so he is not the same as your family member.  There is no indication of the name Adam Strange in his branch of the family and neither of his two sons were given this name. There may well be some distant connection but I am not able to help with this at this time.  I do recall seeing in the tax revision logs for Carrickfergus an area, Weaver's Row, with many Stranges renting properties.  Could be an avenue to explore for Adam Strange, if you have not already tried.  Best wishes in your search.  Sailing 9

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Antrim / Re: Old Rashee Burying Ground-STRANGE;ELLIOTT
« on: Monday 27 July 15 19:40 BST (UK)  »
Dear aghadowey,
Thank you for the Barklie information.  Working on a guess, using the Naming Pattern, then I think William Barklie Strange's mother was Christina Barklie and her father could have been William Barklie, a brother of James and William.  William Barklie Strange was born either about 1787 or 1797 but the time line would fit.  I had just seen the info on the McKinney books which was new to me.  I have added to my list of things to look at at PRONI when I visit Belfast this fall.  This may be a perfect resource for all the names I have for that time period.  Hume/McMurren/Patterson/Seaton/Strange/Barklie/Elliott/Connor/Taylor
I wasn't expecting to get anything before 1800, but this opens up possibilities.  Thank you again.

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Antrim / Re: Old Rashee Burying Ground-STRANGE;ELLIOTT
« on: Monday 27 July 15 11:43 BST (UK)  »
Dear Peggy,
Thank you for the info on Hugh and Jane Strange and their emigration.  Unfortunately I do not have the names of parents of either Mary Johnson/ Johnston or William Barklie Strange.  By applying the Irish/Scot naming pattern, Mary's parents could be Robert Johnson/Johnston and Janet Todd.  William Barklie Strange's could be Hugh Stuart Strange and Christina Barklie. Plan to check the 1813 First Ballyeaston church census for this guess.
Please let me know if you find any fit.  This is who I have for children of William Barklie Strange and Mary Johnson:

Hugh Stuart Strange, b. July 21, 1824--you have info
Janet Todd Strange (called Jenney) b. April 24, 1826
Christiana Strange b. Feb. 28, 1828  married Robert Redpath
Sarah Elizabeth Strange b. Feb. 28, 1828     (died young)
Mary Anne Strange b. Jan. 16, 1830  married Samuel Elliott
Robert Strange b. June 5, 1832      (I think he likely died between 1841 and 1858)
Elizabeth Strange b. August 8, 1834  married Robert Leathem
Agnes (Nancy) Strange b. Sept. 5, 1836 married James Hart
Sarah Jean Strange b. Jan. 16, 1839  Married John Crowe in Belfast

If you need more, please let me know. 

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Antrim / Re: Old Rashee Burying Ground-STRANGE;ELLIOTT
« on: Sunday 26 July 15 21:53 BST (UK)  »
Yes, William Barklie Strange was the father of Hugh Stuart Strange, born July 21, 1824.  He married Mary Johnson at First Ballyeaston on September 5, 1823.  His son Hugh had two marriages, first to Margaret Smyth on December 31, 1850 at First Ballyeaston.  They had at least two children who survived, Mary b. about 1851 and Margaret b. about 1853. The first wife Margaret Smyth Strange died sometime in the 1850's.  Then the marriage to Margaret Garner.  I have the rest of Hugh's children, etc. and yes I have that his son Hugh married Jane Wadell Beggs. 
I have a handmade booklet from 1841 - 1842 that we believe belonged to William Barklie Strange.  I think that was the year his wife died.  He had someone write out the date of his marriage and the names and birthdates of all his surviving children.  In the 1950's my grandfather moved back to Northern Ireland and spent a lot of time trying to interview and find Strange relatives.  I have all of his notes and have added a lot of information on the whole family.  Please email me to let me know what information would be helpful for you to have - glad to share.  Also I would like more specifics on your branch.  Hope this helps.

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Antrim / Re: Old Rashee Burying Ground-STRANGE;ELLIOTT
« on: Friday 10 July 15 12:16 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for the lead to check everlasting site - did not have the ones I want but did give a lead on one  from another Elliott family branch from the Kilbride list.  Having some difficulty getting back to the email for giving list of info on burials at Old Rashee but will try again. 

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Antrim / Re: Old Rashee Burying Ground-STRANGE;ELLIOTT
« on: Wednesday 08 July 15 14:13 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for the reply giving all the websites and prior messages.  Many I had read before.  Still hoping someone may have lists/photos of inscriptions to check for me; if not will consider paying to see what Ulster Historical Foundation has or spend a day doing the stone search when I next return to visit.

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