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Australia / Re: grace brenda bailey australia
« on: Wednesday 01 July 15 13:33 BST (UK)  »
I will send through what I can, when time allows and I'm back in Canberra I'll try and find things out and chase down what I can, although mum's house was recently repossessed by the Govt as part of the asbestosis issue with anything stored in the under house cavity to be destroyed.

I mentioned that mum was sick as I have friend who is adopted with no knowledge of familial health issues to watch out for, everything you've found lines up with my knowledge, I will share that my mother has it would appear at 68 yo early stage Alzheimers or one of the types of dementia, which is something my grandmother Grace suffered from and eventually died from as well.  Grace also had breast cancer and a heart attack, she died when I was 8 yo so not much more detail there sorry.  Although mum and I both have high cholesterol levels and I've had a minor incident on the heart front too (blockage cleared and stent inserted).

I have a pretty good memory of what mum has mentioned through out her research and then as part of general conversation so I have bashed out as much of it as I can below, I hope it fills in some more blanks for you, sorry but I will interchange Beatrice and Kelly regularly I'm sorry, but its the same person.

The reason for emigrating was the fact Beatrice (Kelly) was unable to survive the English winters she lost a couple of sets of twins, one set before she left England and the second set in Australia before her third surviving child, Colin was born, hence he was 10 years younger than Brenda.  Colin passed away in 1998, he had two children from his first marriage one of whom has also passed away, the other I believe is late 60's and worked in the ACT region.

Apparently your grand mother Amanda came out to assist her sister, Beatrice with the raising of the children due to Kelly's ill health, there were apparently 7 kids in that generation, 2 boys lost in WW1 and 5 girls.  Beatrice's immediately older sister was Aunty Gertie, so I assume Gertrude.

Mum does refer to her pop, Ernest, as being known as 'Dick', he was the carpenter who built the original stair case and display woodwork in the original Manly Hotel, Pub that sat opposite the ferry terminal.

The Morris side of the family if you go back far enough apparently links back to Lord Nuffield from northern UK around Sheffield with links to Yorkshire.  Trivia I know but mum mentioned it regularly, they came down to London when they steamed out to Australia on the train the Flying Scotsman.

I will try to remember more and given mums condition she may remember more as time passes.

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Australia / Re: grace brenda bailey australia
« on: Tuesday 30 June 15 03:59 BST (UK)  »
I am not doing any family tree research I was just sourcing dates of death of my grandparents for medical history perspective and your query popped up.  The information you have sourced already seems to read as if it is to do with my family line.

So I can confirm the below information as being correct for my family as I know it to be true.

Brenda (my grandmother) die in 1980, in a nursing home in Goulburn NSW after living with us in Canberra briefly.  She had emigrated from England as a toddler with her family and they did settle in Manly.  My Great grandfather was I believe a master carpenter.

Edith (Eddie), lived into her 80's passing away in Nowra, where she lived a majority of her life, despite two marriages she did not have children.
Brenda married Fred, they had one daughter (my mother) now unwell to the extent that this won't be mentioned to her.  Brenda never remarried post Fred's death, in 1958
Fred's previous marriages obviously aren't of any relevance to your search, although I understand he was widowed and possibly divorced.
Mum has discussed growing up with her grandmother (known as Kellie) living with them.

If this is your family line, then I am sorry to say there are no images due to them unfortunately being destroyed.

Not much more to add as mum's family tree investigations (done years ago) hit a brick wall pre-Australia.

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