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Stirlingshire / Re: HOGGAN
« on: Sunday 14 January 07 18:59 GMT (UK)  »
You can now search for passengers from ships leaving from British ports from 1890 to 1900, which should expand to 1960 on Wednesday.   There are a bunch of Hoggans to look at.
I don't want to post a url, since it looks like it's against the rules, but if you do a search at yahoo..com for historic passenger lists ships online, you'll find it.


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Stirlingshire / Re: HOGGAN
« on: Thursday 22 December 05 21:01 GMT (UK)  »
Oops, I missed a whole section:

Maj Gen John Hoggan (1784- 1861) m. Jane Long (2nd wife)
I put down Maj Gen William Hoggan, but missed his brothers and sisters so:

Fanny (Frances) m. Dr. Morrison
--Edith m. Clement Poole
--Ethel
--James
--Fanny m. Claude Johnstone
  --Iris Betty
--Hugh

Lieut. George Hoggan m. Isabella Carlyle
--John
--Fanny
--Ellie
--Walter
--George

Dr. Edward Hoggan  m. Thomasina Robertson (cousin)
--Edward William Frances m. Ella Crawford
   --Elaine Frances Armadale
   --George Edward Armadale Hoggan OBE m. Ethel "Elizabeth" May Little
      ---Margaret Ann Frances (1956) m. Lt Cdr RObert Stephen Saxby R.N.
           --- Benjamin Stephen Edward(1976)
            ---Alexander Colin Robert (1986)

Jane Maria Sophia 1868

Thomas Robert Robertson M.R.C.V.S m. Belle Smith
--Douglas Charles Ivor
* If you find this person or his descendants, I have his father's letters from WW1, so please let him know!)

Jane m. Dr. Robert Hoggan (cousin)
--Ethel Mary Eleanor (1899) m. Dr. Lewis Inglas Johnstone
--Robert William(1901) m. Eleanor Marie Thorburn Hoggan (Davies) (cousin)

Mary Louise m. Dr. Edmund Antrobus
-- Phyllis Mary m. Gordon Topham

Kenneth Charles Gordon
m. Marion Gladys Worthington.

I might have made some typos along the way.
Susan


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Stirlingshire / Re: HOGGAN
« on: Thursday 22 December 05 18:21 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Rosemary, 
I was going through what you had, and I got confused by some of the slight differences,  so I'll tell you what I have.
Maj. Gen George Hoggan (1740-1809) m. Margaret Jardine (d.1825) Their children:
George (1782-1784)
James (1783-1834) m. Mary McMurdo
---- their children: (4 sons, no names),
----George m. Phyllis McMurdo (a cousin)
     ----George
     ----Katharine
     ----Charles James  m. Helen Robertson (a cousin)
          -----Charles Edward 1884?-1962 m. Eleanor Marie Thorburn Davies (a cousin)
----Jane m. Thomas Mackie
----Barbara m. Col. McMurdo
----Amy m. J. Heywood
     ----Annie
     ----Margaret
     ----Melville
     ----Amy
     ----Robert
     ----Henry
----Margaret

That's it for James' children and grandchilren, the details stop there.  Back to Maj. Geprge Hoggan's children:

Sophia (1785) m. Alexander Smith
---Margaret
---Jessie (no spouse listed - m. 1888)
    ---- Charles James
    ---- Sophia Jessie
    ----  Susan Sophie
    ----  Alexander m. Emily Wainwright
          ---- Thomas Alexander Noel
          ----  Archibald
           ---- Matilda Jessie Violetta

Charles 1787

Maj. Gen John Hoggan (1789-1861) m. Ferances Welland Kennaway (1st wife)
--- Susan Margaret m. Col Ewart
      ---Charles Henry m. Rebecca Barber
          ---- John, Robert, Annette
--- Elizabeth Lucy m. Alfred Wallace Street
     --- Alfred, Arthur J. Lucy Elizabeth, Emily (m. John     
Waddon Martin,) Alfred Cowland
---  Rev Charles Adam Hoggan
2nd wife Jane Long
---Maj Gen John William Hoggan m (1st wife) Katharine Long (cousin)
    ---- Samuel m. Margaret Ormiston
---(2nd wife) Eleanor Pigson
    --- John Edward (my great grandfather) m. Katharine Possetti. emigrated to Canada) (too many kids here, so I'll leave them out, unless you want them)
    --- Maj. George Peter  m. Mary Freer
    ---Dr. Robert Hoggan m. Jane Hoggan (cousin)
        ----Ethel Mary Eleanor m. Dr. Lewis Inglis Johnston, Robert William M. Eleanor Hoggan (he was her second husband, the first was also a Hoggan)
     ---- William McGregor m. Caroline Moore   
           ---- Elizabeth Ann m. Alistair Goodall, Ann m. Graham Dunsford
     --- Elenanor Catherine Augusta m. Edward Davies
          ---- Eleanor Marie Thorburn. (m. Robert William Hoggan (cousin)) Edward, Kathleen Ward, Isabella Hope, Constance Evelyn


Now back up again to George's children:

Margaret, b. 1740,
Charlotte, b. 1792 m. Rev. William Gillespie
Edward b. 1794 d, 1867
Mary b. 1796 d. 1875
Lt. Col. William Hoggan 1798-1860
--- William 1831-1895 m. Harriet Johnson   
     ----Alfred J. m. Blanche Faville
          ----Denis J. m. Alma Buckley Smith
               ----Claire m. Terry Bannister
                     ----James, Timothy

Helen (1800-1857 m. Hamilton Vetch
---Robert
---George m. Sarah Lightbody
    ---Sarah
----Francis
Henry

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Stirlingshire / Re: HOGGAN
« on: Wednesday 21 December 05 21:13 GMT (UK)  »
I have a copy of my family tree from Captain James Hoggan, 5th Dragoon guards (no date, unfortunately, but sometime before 1740 when his son, Major George Hoggan was born.)  There isn't a tree for his brother James - I don't know if there isn't one, or if it wasn't our side of the family, so the person doing the tree didn't care.
Waterside was purchased in 1782.
There were 12 children of George Hogan. The ones who had had children, were:
James 1783-1834, Sophia (Smith)1785, Major General John (my however many greats) 1789,  Lt. Col Willian Hoggan, 1798 - 1860 and Helen (Vetch)1800-1857

The family tree doesn't show all of the generations of any one but my direct ancestors, up to my grandmothers generation, but some of the names that the girls married into are:
Ewarts. Streets. Bradshaws, Morrisons, Saxbys, and Davies.

If anyone would like more details, please let me know.

Susan 

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Stirlingshire / Re: HOGGAN
« on: Friday 04 November 05 00:36 GMT (UK)  »
I'm the great granddaughter of the Yukon Hoggan, John Hoggan.  He was born in India to Maj. Gen Hoggan (don't know the date) and his second wife.  I think her name may have been Katherine or Catherine.  She was only 18 or 19 years old when he was born.  He emigrated to Canada in 1898 or 1899 during the Yukon gold rush and spent many years as a riverboat captain.  I'm not really into geneology, so I probably don't have much useful information as to dates and such, but here goes:  (I'm just sticking to his children as I don't know if my cousins want the info on here about them.)

John and his wife, Kate had eight children.  My great aunt Lillian was 24 years older than my grandmother, so they were quite spread out.

Six were born in the Yukon.

-Lillian (born in England around 1890)
-Helena (born in England around 1890)
-Florence
-Dorothy
-John (called Johnny)
-Robert
-George
-Marjorie (my Grandmother, born in 1914 or 1915)

We had two or three female cousins in England and a male cousin, Tom Hoggan, in Vancouver, who's letters I have from WW1.    They're the only relatives I know of.  I thought the line had died out, actually, as two cousins married and decided not to have children, and the others were women who didn't marry.  Elaine and Molly are the names I know of.

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