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Might be worth checking for Poor Law/Workhouse records. Many people born in Ireland who moved to Scotland claimed under the Poor Law (the equivalent of today's social security). If they did, their case files usually noted their parish of origin in Ireland. (This was because for recent arrivals they could be returned to that parish). The records often also contain details of next of kin. Interesting in its own right too. I am not sure where Dunbartonshire Poor Law records are kept. But it might be worth searching for them because if any of these families did claim, it may answer your question as to their origins.
Thank you, I will defo try this. 😄
Hi Zebrakat,
I haven't been able to view the Poor Law records yet but have just discovered that my ancestor Patrick Gillan came from County Cavan in Ireland which narrows down my search for a place of origin for my Gillans quite a bit. Thought this could possibly be of help if you were able to link to my Gillans.
I also came across a birth record for a Laurence Gillon yesterday but you'll probably have this already. Laurence Gillon. b. 22 Aug 1873 at Blairdardie Rows, New Kilpatrick. Father, John Gillon - coalminer. Mother, Ann McAubray. Parents married, 10 Jun 1868, Kilmarnock.
As far as I know Blairdardie was the neighbouring mining township to Garscadden as I mentioned in a previous comment. There seem to be many Gillans involved in coal/ironstone mining in this area at this time.
Best wishes.
Might be worth checking for Poor Law/Workhouse records. Many people born in Ireland who moved to Scotland claimed under the Poor Law (the equivalent of today's social security). If they did, their case files usually noted their parish of origin in Ireland. (This was because for recent arrivals they could be returned to that parish). The records often also contain details of next of kin. Interesting in its own right too. I am not sure where Dunbartonshire Poor Law records are kept. But it might be worth searching for them because if any of these families did claim, it may answer your question as to their origins.
Hi Zebrakat,
I hadn't come across the name Laurance Gillan before but after reading your post in the Ayrshire thread and seeing Old/New Kilpatrick mentioned there could well be some sort of link. Trying to find the link could be quite tricky though. My earliest Gillan ancestor to come to Scotland was Patrick Gillan b. 1831 (parents Thomas Gillan - Catherine Duffy) sometime before the 1851 census. I'm unsure where in Ireland they originated. Some Gillans had settled in Duntocher (Old Kilpatrick parish) for about 20 years before Patrick came over (from the 1820s) and many Gillans later moved to the purpose built mining village of Garscadden (New Kilpatrick) after around 1860ish. Most seem to be involved in coal/ironstone mining at some point. I've just started trying to catalogue all of the Gillans in the Old and New Kilpatrick parishes as there seems to be a family link between most of them. I'm hoping some clue may pop up as to the origins of my Gillans in Ireland. I'll let you know if I come across anything.
Now that we know exactly what you started with, what you are looking for and what you've found along the way it might be easier to help you.
The most important thing in Irish research is location (townland, parish, county).
Here's a link to the 1821 census entry you found- Buttersbridg townland, Castleterra D.E.D., Co. Cavan:
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1821/Cavan/Castleterra/Buttersbridge/19/
The Catholic Parish Registers just came online last week and those for Castletara Parish are extensive- baptisms starting in 1763 but stopping in 1809, then 1862-1881; marriages 1763-1793, 1808-1809. So, there may, or may not be records online (or surviving) to help.
http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0822