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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Amelia Slater nee Drew after 1901
« on: Monday 17 April 06 14:09 BST (UK)  »
Hi Ticker

You're not going to believe this but I think I solved the mystery last night!

I had just about given up but decided to have one last try. I first started looking for her before the earlier censuses were available so I started there and found that she was actually 10 years older than the later censuses and her marriage certificate said! There is a reference for the death of an Amelia Slater in the first quarter of 1907, aged 60 years, registered in Hunslet. The age is a year or two out but, given the fact that it's been 10 years out for most of her life, I think it's near enough! Her sister ran a shop in Rothwell, which is in Hunslet registration district, and it seems probable that she went to live with her. The certificate should confirm it. I would dearly love to know when she went to her sister's - before or after the death of her husband - but I don't think it's going to be possible to find out.

Thanks for trying and perhaps you could close this query now please.

Jud









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The Lighter Side / Re: What is your most uncommon name?
« on: Tuesday 21 March 06 22:19 GMT (UK)  »
I had a friend whose mother and aunts were all named after flowers - Rose, Violet, Lily etc. That was quite common but I had a little chuckle when I spotted this lady in the GRO birth index

Attwell, Lily of the Valley

Do you think she signed things LOTV Attwell and did she ever use her 2nd name etc?

Jud

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Divorce
« on: Thursday 16 March 06 22:56 GMT (UK)  »
Hi

According to information on the 1837online site, all divorce records are held at the
Principal Registry of the Family Division (PRFD) and are not accessible to the public. One of their officials will do a search for you and supply a copy for a fee - NB it does not give any indication of how much this will be!  Their full address can be found by visiting the 1837 online site and looking up divorce on the resources and guidance tab. You don't need to subscribe to look it up.

I visited the www.nationalarchivist.com site last week to see what information was available and noticed they they were offering divorce records. I think it said you could search the index free and their recovery service would send a copy of the decree for about £20 but it only covered records from 1858-1903.

Hope this helps

Jud

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Marriage Squire Sutcliffe and Ellen Hartley
« on: Friday 16 December 05 01:16 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Mama

I've a few suggestions for you which are a bit a bit far-fetched but it's funny how something you've dismissed as improbable turns out to be correct.

1. What if Ellen Hartley married Mr. Berry who died and then married Squire Sutcliffe which would explain the different name on the certificate. Her name should have been given as Berry, formerly Hartley and she should be described as widow but I don't know how carefully things were recorded.
(I can't find a record of a Hartley/Berry marriage on FreeBMD and, if her age is correct on the 1871 census, she must have been married very young and for a very short time!)

2. Assuming she was Ellen Berry and that she and your grandfather outlived Squire, could she have re-married and her new name (Hartley) have been shown on his death certificate? It sounded as if you didn't know when she died so you won't know what name was on her death certificate. It may be worth searching for a marriage after 1910.

3. You say you were told that she married Squire Sutcliffe - could your informant have been muddled? FreeBMD shows that an Ellen Hartley married either John Sutcliffe or James Hartley in the 1st qtr of 1861 in Skipton (GRO ref 9a 61) It could mean that both John and Squire Sutcliffe married Ellen's and your informant got them the wrong way round. It's more likely to be a red herring! Is there a John Sutcliffe in your tree?

I hope this helps

Jud

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Derbyshire / Re: 1830 Marriage Records - Alfreton
« on: Wednesday 07 December 05 12:32 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Sylvia

Thanks for the photo.  She does look a bit familiar and I've been trying to think why.  I think it's the cheeks - most of the Slater men had high cheek bones and when they were younger and leaner looked slightly Slavic - a bit like Jack Palance if you remember him.  I suppose the women had them too but they were more rounded - like Janet.

I'm just on my way to do some Christmas shopping ugh! - not my favourite pastime - but when I get back I'll see if I can find a photo to show you what I mean.  The nearest match would be Audrey my 2nd cousin but I've only got a photocopy of a tattered newspaper photo of her which won't be clear enough.  I've never been very good at scanning so keep your fingers crossed - it may take a while!

Thanks again
Jud

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The Lighter Side / Re: Memories from the Oldest person you ever knew?How far back?
« on: Tuesday 06 December 05 02:41 GMT (UK)  »
My grandfather, who lived with us, was born in 1876.  Often, usually after Sunday dinner, he would settle down and say "did I ever tell you....?" and even if we all said "yes" he'd carry on with his tale. He had been in the Boer War and some of his tales were about that - not the fighting etc. but the big adventure of leaving Yorkshire for the first time in his life, going on a ship for the first time and mixing with foreigners (ie Lancastrians!) for the first time. They were usually funny like his friend, who after weeks on the ship, had spotted a fly as they were approaching Capetown and had informed everyone that he'd seen "an English fly" because he didn't know they lived in foreign parts as well.  He told us about his horse, which he'd had throughout, being shot from under him and how the only thing he could do was put it out of its misery.  His weren't the only eyes with tears in when he told this one.

He volunteered for WWI but failed the medical because they thought he had a heart murmur but he had the last laugh because he was 92 years when he died in 1968.

He also used to reminisce about his family and the amusing things they'd got up to.  Unfortunately, except for one brother they had all been dead for ages by this time and I suppose  because I never knew them, I didn't pay much attention.  I'll leave you to guess how many times since I've bitterly regretted this stupidity!!!

Jud

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Completed Census Requests / Re: 1841 Census Request Hooton Roberts
« on: Wednesday 30 November 05 22:22 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Oly

Old Denaby was quite a small place and it would be too much of a coincidence to have two families of Glassbys (2xS's! which is fairly unusual) who were not related but we have been trying for ages to find the connection.  If there is one it must be quite remote. "Our" Robert is about the same age as Robert (the sculptor)'s father William but they are not brothers and I'm almost sure they're not cousins.  Unfortunately both families seemed to like the same christian names which was quite confusing but at least the sculptor went in for more exotic names for his children who were mainly born in Marylebone!

I think the baptism you found is a different family.  There are quite a lot of Glasbys (1xS) in the same area and since my lot often omit one of the S's it makes the chase more exciting!!

Jud

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Completed Census Requests / Re: 1841 Census Request Hooton Roberts
« on: Tuesday 29 November 05 21:57 GMT (UK)  »
Many thanks Oly!

This is terrific.  Ann died in "Conisbro"  but I think she was buried in Hooton Roberts.  Is this your area?  I'd be greatful for any information but don't want to put you to too much trouble.

Thanks again

Jud

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Completed Census Requests / 1841 Census Request Hooton Roberts
« on: Tuesday 29 November 05 01:17 GMT (UK)  »
My GG Grandparents were married in Hooton Roberts in 1840 and their eldest son was born there in the same year.  My G Grandfather was born in Wroot, NW Lincs in 1843.  Someone has very kindly tried to find them in the 1841 Lincs census without success so they were probably still in Hooton Roberts.

Is anyone able to do a lookup for me please?  Their names are Robert Glassby b. 1811 (1821 in 1851 census!) in Denaby, Ag Lab.  Ann Glassby b. 1820 Letwell, Notts & Thomas Glassby b. 1840 Hooton Roberts.

I am hoping that they were living with Robert's parents Thomas and Ann Glassby.  I have very little information on them except that Ann died in 1842, aged 77 and was described as a widow so Thomas may have died before the census.

Thanks in advance

Jud

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