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Leitrim / Re: Alexander Trotter born circa 1799 in Leitrim
« on: Tuesday 29 November 16 00:06 GMT (UK)  »
Hi there:

Sorry, I have it all wrong by a generation, so disregard my previous post. Your Gerrard, if from Leitrim, may have been a son of John 1778-1852 that I don't have on my tree.

Do you have any records showing he was from Leitrim?

The Gerrard I showed in my previous post could have been a nephew of your Gerrard.

Best,

Ray


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Leitrim / Re: Alexander Trotter born circa 1799 in Leitrim
« on: Monday 28 November 16 23:46 GMT (UK)  »
Hi there:

Thanks for your note.

I have Gerrard on my tree as a son of John Trotter (DOB ca 1810) and Maria Unknown, sib of Mary Anne and John.

Gerrard Trotter - Date of Birth
Date of Baptism - 25-Oct-1841
Address - Tullyskreeny - Parish/District - CLOONCLARE CHURCH OF IRELAND
Gender - Male - County - Co. Leitrim
Denomination - Church of Ireland
Father - John Trotter - Mother - Maria Not Recorded

(Tullyskeherny is a townland in Cloonclare Parish near Manorhamilton town).

Gerrard's father John was born ca 1810 (estimate), and, having lived in Tullyskeherny, was a probable son of John 1778-1852 who was married to Mary Ann maiden name unknown, but possibly Johnston because of the name of one of her grandkids.

John may have been a brother to my great great great grandfather James Trotter 1783-1881 who married Sarah Campbell in Manorhamilton. They moved to Ontario, Canada in the 1830s.

You can see there are a lot of probably's, possibly's, mostly based on geography and dates, so these connections are tentative. Due to the lack of records this may be as close as we can get to certainty other than DNA testing.

A number of my close relatives have done DNA tests with Ancestry.com and one way we can check if we're related is for you to do the test. Even better would be an older relative in the line of Gerrard.

If my above connections are correct we're probably 5th cousins or so.

One other thing, I have a marriage record for a Jarrod married to Catherine Henigan in 1864. Jarod and Gerrard were uncommon names back then and probably indicate the name of an ancestor. Not sure how Jarrod and Gerrard might be linked if at all.

Best Regards,

Ray

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Leitrim / Re: Alexander Trotter born circa 1799 in Leitrim
« on: Tuesday 16 June 15 21:11 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Josephine:

I used to live in Brandon. Interesting.

I've had a look at what Irish records I could find, and don't see any of your relatives, mostly because the records don't usually go back far enough. The name Alexander only comes up in the Trotters from Killarga Parish who mostly lived in Altavra townland, and also Gortahork.

Looks like mine came from the Manorhamilton area, and yes, those Manorhamilton COI gravestones are my relatives.

Here are a few records which might be related to your bunch:

Marriages

Church Marriage Record
Date of Marriage - 29-Mar-1847
Parish / District - KILLANUMMERY CHURCH OF IRELAND - (Leitrim) - County - Co. Leitrim
Husband - Wife
Name - Alixander Trotter - Anne Collins
Address - Knocknacullion - Ligreghan
Denomination - Church of Ireland - Church of Ireland
Occupation:
Age:
Status:
Husband's Father - Wife's Father
Name - Thomas Trotter - John - Collins
Knocknacullion is in either Outeragh or Killarga Parish/

Deaths/Burials

Church Burial Record
Name - Mary Trotter - Date of Death - 21-Jul-1828   
Age - 35 - Parish/District - DRUMLEASE CHURCH OF IRELAND
Address - Altavra Killargue - County - Co. Leitrim
Status - Denomination - Church of Ireland
Occupation - Sex - Female

Church Burial Record
Name - Mary Trotter - Date of Death - 10-Jul-1854   
Age - 15 - Parish/District - DRUMLEASE CHURCH OF IRELAND
Address - Killargue - County - Co. Leitrim
Status - Denomination - Church of Ireland
Occupation - Sex - Female

Civil Death Record
Name - Thomas Trotter - Date of Death - 08-Mar-1864
Age - 90 - Parish/District - DRUMKEERAN CIVIL REGISTRATION DISTRICT
Address - Gurtahurka - County - Co. Leitrim
Status - Widower (Male) - Denomination - Not Recorded
Occupation - FARMER - Sex - Male
Graveyard - Informant
Graveyard - Relationship - Occupier
Parish - Name - Jared Ovens
County - Address - Gurtahurka
Gortahork is in Killarga.

Church Burial Record
Name - John Trotter - Date of Death - 08-Jun-1863   [1819]
Age - 44 - Parish/District - CLOONCLARE CHURCH OF IRELAND
Address - Gortahusk Innismagrath - County - Co. Leitrim
Status - Denomination - Church of Ireland
Occupation - Sex - Male
Buried in Cloonclare, so quite possibly one of the Manorhamilton bunch. Probably Gortahork in Killarga.

Civil Death Record
Name - Isabella Trotter - Date of Death - 03-Jul-1905
Age - 16 - Parish/District - DRUMKEERAN CIVIL REGISTRATION DISTRICT
Address - Altavra - County - Co. Leitrim
Status - Spinster (Previously unmarried) - Denomination - Not Recorded
Occupation - CHILD OF ALEXANDER TROTTER A FARMER - Sex - Female
Graveyard - Informant
Graveyard - Relationship - Father
Parish - Name - Alexander Trotter
County - Address - Altavra

Civil Death Record
Name - William Trotter - Date of Death - 04-Oct-1916
Age - 20 - Parish/District - DRUMKEERAN CIVIL REGISTRATION DISTRICT
Address - Altavra - County - Co. Leitrim
Status - Bachelor (Previously unmarried) - Denomination - Not Recorded
Occupation - CHILD OF WILLIAM A FARMER - Sex - Male
Graveyard - Informant
Graveyard - Relationship - Father
Parish - Name - William Trotter
County - Address - Altavra

and the 1901 census:

Surname - Forename - Townland/Street - DED - County - Age - Sex
Killarga Parish is in the south end of the northern half of Leitrim bordering Drumlease on its NW corner.
Trotter - Maria - Altavra - Killarga - Leitrim - 35 - F
Trotter - Elizabeth - Altavra - Killarga - Leitrim - 5 - F
Trotter - Issabella - Altavra - Killarga - Leitrim - 12 - F
Trotter - Anne Jane - Altavra - Killarga - Leitrim - 36 - F
Trotter - Fanny - Altavra - Killarga - Leitrim - 11 - F
Trotter - Isaac - Altavra - Killarga - Leitrim - 9 - M
Trotter - Thomas - Altavra - Killarga - Leitrim - 6 - M
Trotter - Alexandra - Altavra - Killarga - Leitrim - 4 - M
Trotter - William - Altavra - Killarga - Leitrim - 54 - M
Trotter - William - Altavra - Killarga - Leitrim - 5 - M
Trotter - Thomas - Altavra - Killarga - Leitrim - 2 - M
Trotter - William - Altavra - Killarga - Leitrim - 90 - M
Trotter - Alexander - Altavra - Killarga - Leitrim - 50 - M
Trotter - Jane - Altavra - Killarga - Leitrim - 12 - F
Trotter - Gerald - Altavra - Killarga - Leitrim - 0 - M

Regards,

Ray


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Leitrim / Re: Alexander Trotter born circa 1799 in Leitrim
« on: Tuesday 16 June 15 00:21 BST (UK)  »
I do appreciate you pointing it out! No doubt the Trotter headstones at Manorhamilton COI are relatives of mine.

My main quest is trying to find my Carson Leitrim origins.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,

Ray

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Leitrim / Re: Alexander Trotter born circa 1799 in Leitrim
« on: Monday 15 June 15 22:02 BST (UK)  »
Thanks. I've already seen those.

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Leitrim / Re: Alexander Trotter born circa 1799 in Leitrim
« on: Monday 15 June 15 11:29 BST (UK)  »
Hi Josephine:

My great great great grandfather was James Trotter abt. 1783 who married Sarah Campbell in the Church of Ireland, Manorhamilton, Cloonclare, Leitrim in 1819. He moved his family to ON in the late 1830's, possibly 1837. His daughter Ann married my great great grandfather Samuel Carson, who was also from Leitrim, in Grey ON. There's a good chance the Trotters and Carsons knew each other in Leitrim.

I've done a bit of work on the Trotters and am thinking yours might be related. There weren't many. I think James had a brother John, and they probably lived in Tullyskeherny townland just outside the town of Manorhamilton. There was a clump of them from here.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Best,

Ray Swanson
White Rock, BC

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