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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help with Cause of Death
« on: Saturday 25 June 22 00:39 BST (UK)  »
County of Bourke. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Collingwood

Thank you for going to so much trouble, Andy!

I hadn't actually Googled Collingwood and really should as it's history may help fill in Miriam's story.

Just as an aside; This young lady had 8 brothers and 6 sisters and only 2 of them lived near her. Her parents were in Ballarat and I was afraid that she died and no one knew because she was buried in an obscure Cemetery in Coburg quite alone.  It's good to know she wasn't and now I can bring her home.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help with Cause of Death
« on: Saturday 25 June 22 00:28 BST (UK)  »
Hah!  Most definitely not! 
When I first looked at it I though it said buchal tumor, and I didn’t think there was such a thing!  On closer inspection it’s cerebral tumor (tumour)
I had trouble trying to decipher some of the writing in column 1 -  City of Coiling….?  then saw Collingwood. But as for County of ……. ?  I still can’t work that out!  Hopefully, you have deciphered it!
A

That's what I saw and couldn't unsee! I even Googled 'buchal tumour' just in case!
I did actually work out absolutely everything else. Count of Bourke, Collingwood etc but the COD was the whole reason why I purchased her Death Certificate in the 1st place. So thank you again. Why didn't the man just say "brain" :)

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help with Cause of Death
« on: Friday 24 June 22 00:32 BST (UK)  »
I’m fairly sure it’s Cerebral Tumor (tumour)
Definitely don’t feel silly!  Sometimes you see them, sometimes you don’t!
Anne

Oh Ann
Thank you for putting me out of my misery. Now it's as plain as the nose on my face. Perhaps I have an undiagnosed one as well! Ha!

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Help with Cause of Death
« on: Thursday 23 June 22 23:56 BST (UK)  »
I have a cause of death as being a tumour but I can't work out what type  ???. As soon as you tell me I will feel really silly, but it is driving me nuts for no specific reason  ;D

Many thanks in advance

Kim

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Australia / Re: Henry Heaney - were there 2 or did he have 2 wives and families?
« on: Monday 18 April 22 21:28 BST (UK)  »
You must be sick of me by now but I had a thought during the night. ::)

Henry's son Francis died under the name of "John Edison" as per his death certificate attached below.

I realise that death certs are not reliable in providing information about a parent but... it does say that his father's name was Henry Edison plus my 2x great grandmother, Charlotte Armstrong nee Heaney (the eldest dau. of Henry) named her youngest son Matt Edison Armstrong.

Why? I have found no family name of "Edison" so did she do this in remembrance of her father or her brother?

So could Henry have died under the name of Edison as well?

I searched but found nothing that helped.

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Australia / Re: Henry Heaney - were there 2 or did he have 2 wives and families?
« on: Monday 18 April 22 04:00 BST (UK)  »

I assume you have checked for various spellings, however I post, in case you have missed this NSW death record.

HANNEY,    HENRY J
13846/1892     WELLINGTON
Father -  WILLIAM G
Mother -  LAURA E


Oh jeeepers! I had NOT found this death. I had tried Heany, Heeny, Henney, Honey but not Hanney! Thank you will have a look. The only thing is that in no records that have been found is there a mention if a middle name, and none of his children have a 'J' nor a Laura.

Thank you again.
Kim

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Australia / Re: Henry Heaney - were there 2 or did he have 2 wives and families?
« on: Monday 18 April 22 03:48 BST (UK)  »
For those who may not have seen it, I link these items connected with the last year of Francis HEANEY's life.

I was astonished to the point of laughter with the list of his aliases

Francis disappeared 1936 NSW
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/17250963

Found- In the Estate of....
List of the alias names used by Francis HEANEY.1936.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/222027647

Sue






Welllll Yessss. Francis is a whole other ball game!
I can't help myself ... I need to share this little nugget, but I think Francis wanted to be Frances. truly!
There is an image of his sister, Matilda and a 'woman' who is definitely NOT her mother.
This family is somewhat colourful  ;D

A little about Francis;

His life between 1867 (age 12 when his parents split up) and 1896 is a blank, but we finally find him at age 38 living on Murrumbidgerie Station near Dubbo, leasing 550acres of land just down the road from his brother George.

A marriage for Francis has not been found so if he had any children it would be near impossible to find them.

Francis died on April 23, 1936, in Lidcombe, New South Wales, Australia, at the age of 80. Francis's life was difficult to trace because his will registration reveals that he went by various aliases. Francis changed his name to John Edison. he died of Senility in Lidcombe State Hospital and is buried in Rookwood.

These aliases provided by his death cert, have been researched in Trove and on the strength of what was read, it seems that Francis had a drinking problem. He could also have been mixed up in the sly grog trade in Sydney in later life and it is also entirely possible that he was transgender as per the portrait of his sister with a mystery "woman" and the fact that he left behind property in Ballarat under the name of "widow Frances Mooney."

As an aside...his sister Matilda's marriage split up and her husband is buried with another man. so...



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Australia / Re: Henry Heaney - were there 2 or did he have 2 wives and families?
« on: Sunday 17 April 22 23:37 BST (UK)  »
.....

George a "selector" (I don't know what this is - cows or sheep maybe) and his brother Francis had some sort of connection with Murrumbidgerie Station in 1894 and he is listed as a bankrupt there in 1909. His other brother, Arthur lived with him there in 1915.

So why were all 3 boys in Dubbo NSW if not to initially reconnect with their father. Plus there aren't any other Henry Heaney's that I can find in NSW.

Sometimes I make stuff up, so thank you for keeping me on the straight and narrow   ;D

George ended up dying there
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Mr Google can be your friend.

https://www.historyskills.com/finding-sources/modern-history/squatters-and-selectors-sources/
and
https://digital-classroom.nma.gov.au/defining-moments/introduction-robertson-land-acts

and of course RChat's own search engine  ;D
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=735254.0

You may well have some elusive blanks on the rural/regional marriages for your ancestors in NSW prior to say 1895.  The information was recorded but only summary details submitted to NSW BDM.  NSW BDM has not ever fully reconciled their own summary details with the parish records.

A very long thread now, but it explains how to go about sorting and establishing the ages of the bride and groom, their occupations, their usual addresses, their parents names (including mums' former and maiden names) their dad's occupations and all the vital family history info you need to actually have confidence that you are joining NSW dots.   :) https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=546609.0

JM
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How fabulous is this!

It will take me some time to study all of these links and retry my Mr Googling. Mr Google and I are NOT friends. I try, but never know how to search correctly ie. I must put in the wrong keywords.

I am so grateful, I truly can't tell you how much. I love to learn and am often so very frustrated that I don't know how to find information beyond Trove and Ancestry and the likes.

Thak you JM




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Australia / Re: Henry Heaney - were there 2 or did he have 2 wives and families?
« on: Sunday 17 April 22 23:25 BST (UK)  »
I have finally found Arthur in the Vic records, for some reason it has not been indexed by PROV.

https://prov.vic.gov.au/archive/1CA4DDDC-F3A9-11E9-AE98-A95051585AFF

Page 69 in the left hand menu, lots of good photos there.

Debra  :)

Oh my giddy uncle - this is amazing!

Poor Arthur had a pretty horrible time and although he went bad he came good again in the end.
I have attached a photo of Arthur in his early prosperous days before his life went soooo wrong.
A bit about Arthur:

Arthur married Emma Sarah Kopke on 6 June 1893 in Ballarat, Victoria when he was 34. They had one son during their marriage, Laurance.

Arthur was partners with his younger brother, Brigham in a bacon curing factory in Ballarat and offered his candidacy in the local elections numerous times.

Arthur's life virtually fell apart between 1896 and 1898, he lost his wife, his business (burnt down), his house (burnt down), his brother and business partner (Brigham Henry sudden heart attack), his mother (prob due to the house fire) and his son was taken to be brought up by his in-laws, then he went bankrupt - no wonder he turned to crime.
After being released from gaol for the umpteenth time he signed up for the military shaving 13yrs off his age saying he was 44 and 11mths and served in Egypt coming home after being discharged for debility and senility.

He lived in Dubbo in his later years either with his brother George and is listed as a writer. He offered his candidacy again but this time as a member for Warranbee, NSW.

He died on 28 October 1931 in Latrobe St Ballarat, Victoria, at the age of 73 after losing his brother and sister within months of each other in the same year.

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I don't think Henry was a very good influence on his children. I have quite a lot about them and many questions but I will start a new thread for them as its all so fascinating and I still need to find Henry's parents and death if I can!

This is so much fun and I can't tell you all how much I appreciate your help and guidance.

I really struggle with finding anything on government sites, so Deb this is amazing!

 

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