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Cornwall / Re: Origins of Penrose aka Penros
« on: Sunday 30 October 05 23:34 GMT (UK)  »
FYI - I have now found Escalles, France and am searching for records.  It is not a part of Epernay - it is Calais.  Hmm.  Is there a John of Gaunt (Plantagenet) connection? I know he was married to Isabella of Castile,  yet his many campaigns into France prior to this wedding may have brought Philip's father to Cornwall?  Far fetched, and yet, you never know... ?  Or perhaps I need to be researching the lists of William the Conqueror - it would make  sense that Philip's ancestor came over from Normandy with him.  There is a record of the Lord d'Escalles fighting.

Thanks for the offer of your records, etc.  I do appreciate it.

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Cornwall / Re: Origins of Penrose aka Penros
« on: Sunday 30 October 05 23:25 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Chris,
I'm glad you found this helpful.  Would you care to see the rest of my findings? It is lengthy, but in prose format - perhaps I can email it to you? I've traced the Sennen line through the eldest sons (wherever possible) from 1195 to the present.  There may be more clues for you to branch out from.
Also, as I've been trying to find out about Philip in Escalls, it turns out that there is/was a village of Escalls in Cornwall...?... I'm curious to find out if Escalls was related to the area surrounding Epernay, France.  Perhaps there are records to be had in Cornwall - especially who Philip Penros was aligned with that sent him to France, or perhaps who his parents were.  Perhaps they were the french connection?  My research is continuing - I believe we are looking for the same information.  Please let me know what you find, and I will share as well.
Cheers, Carrie

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Cornwall / Re: Origins of Penrose aka Penros
« on: Sunday 30 October 05 05:18 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Chris,
My name is Carrie.  I did research on my great grandmother in Grad school, and traced her father's line back to Philip de Penros.  You may find the following helpful.
I have managed to trace the Penrose clan back to about the year 1195.  This line begins with Philip de Penros (abt. 1195 Cornwall, England).  He lived in Escalls, France for a time, and had three sons, Robert Penros de Escalls (abt. 1221 Escalls, France), Michael Penros de Escalls (abt. 1248 Escalls, France) and Roger de Penros (abt. 1250 Sithney, Cornwall). It appears they moved back to England between the births of Michael and Roger. Robert Penros de Escalls’ son, Roger de Penros (abt. 1250 Sithney, Cornwall) is next in line. 
   Roger de Penros’ son was Richard de Penrees (abt. 1278 Sithney, Cornwall), who married a woman only known as Katherine in 1296. They had seven children between 1297 and 1309, five of whom married a Vivyan, a de Bosfrancan (2), a de Botyoulen, and a Le Archer.  John de Penros (abt. 1299 Penwith, Sennen, Cornwall) was Roger and Katherine’s second son, who married, Nichola Vivyan (abt. 1301 Sennen, Cornwall), around the year 1320.  John and Nichola had six children between 1321 and 1329...


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