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Renfrewshire / Re: Carruth Brick Wall
« on: Saturday 16 May 15 20:18 BST (UK)  »
Thank you again, Monica & Brigau ! Amazing to find that  on the 1851 Census,Alexander was employing 1 Journeyman & 2 Apprentices in 1852, the year that he disappears ! He had built up quite a business. What  happened ?? I didn't get half of that info on my search of the 1851 Census . That info seems to lead to the conclusion that he didn't leave Paisley to seek work !

Monica,  On the 1861 Census,Ellen is shown as Head, with a W , crossed through with an almost vertical line, against her name. Was Alexander the victim of the Cholera outbreaks which hit Paisley ? I think that you are right, I should have another look at  what happens to the children on Scotlands People when I get enough free time !

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Renfrewshire / Re: Carruth Brick Wall
« on: Friday 15 May 15 17:16 BST (UK)  »
Thanks again, Monica. Good idea about looking at the Baptisms of the children to see if they give any other info. I will try to find them on Scotlands people !I will try to get the Baptism of my Great Grandpa, John.(Helens first Son).
I got the parents of Helen ,as  her Baptism came up easily, for some reason.
Thanks again. John

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Renfrewshire / Re: Carruth Brick Wall
« on: Friday 15 May 15 08:39 BST (UK)  »
Hi Monika. I found their marriage Banns(from Scotlands People)&confirmed marriage,at the Independent church? at an early stage of my research & thought that that was a good start but then   I hit the brick wall(No parents shown, on the Banns.) John.

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Renfrewshire / Re: Carruth Brick Wall
« on: Friday 15 May 15 08:32 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for your help, Monika. I actually found the Baptism of Helen (a.k.a. Ellen & (later), Janet ?)in 1820, Thornleigh Park,Paisley. Her Maiden name was Smith and Smith was the common middle name for girls in the family for the next 3 generations. Her Mother was Elisabeth Smith and that name was also used as a first name for 3 generations, too. On the 1861 Census, Helen is shown with a W against her name, presumably Widow, but the Enumerator has also put a(almost vertical) cross through that as he has with a couple of other  such entries on that page. Helen died in 1897 & was buried in the family grave of her son(a couple of his children had died before her !)named as Janet  Smith, but the age,  matched exactly.
John.

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Renfrewshire / Carruth Brick Wall
« on: Thursday 14 May 15 19:51 BST (UK)  »
Can anyone help me to trace my Ancestor ,Alexander  Carruth, a Cooper by trade living on Causeyside in Paisley. He disappears from the records of Paisley & Scotland ,some  time between the birth of his daughter Christina in 1852 when he was aged about 31 years of age and the 1861 Census when his wife, Helen (or Ellen) is shown as Head of Household and Christina is not shown. Did he, like a lot of  Paisley working men, leave Paisley &Scotland to search for work in other Lands? Does anyone if there are any details listed of men who took ship from West of Scotland ports to Canada, U.S.A. or Australasia between 1852 and 1861 ?
I also have another Brick wall concerning Alexander Carruth which is that, the 1841  Census gives his age as  20, the same as his wife, but I can find no O.P.R entry for his birth around 1818/1822. There is a family in Paisley that may well be his parents (William & Agnes Carruth) but I cannot make the link without an O.P.R. birth entry showing his parents. Does anyone know of any missing Parish records for Paisley Abbey Ward for the period 1818/1822 ?

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Lanarkshire / Re: Mort Cloths
« on: Thursday 14 May 15 14:55 BST (UK)  »
I am of Scottish birth but was living in the London area as a child in the 1950s when  all my Grandparents died in Glasgow, my parents separately going to Glasgow for the funerals and I  was told at that time that only men attended the funerals with the womenfolk staying at home.
John.

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