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Dublin / Re: Birth Record, surname Walthew
« on: Wednesday 13 May 15 13:46 BST (UK)  »
And finally at St James, Toxteth, we have the following:
1) Sarah, dtr of late George Walthew & Sarah died 17 July 1800, buried 19 July 1800, age 3yrs 5mnts

2) George Walthew, linen and woolen draper, died 7 Sep 1797 buried 9.09.1797

3) Sarah, relict of George Walthew, draper of Bolton Street, died 12.03.1801, buried 15.03.1801, age 37.

Irritatingly, no age is given for George, so was he an old guy who married a much younger bride, or was he of an age with Sarah and therefore born around 1860ish? If the latter he could be our William's brother. If the former cld be our Wm's father. Or he cld be no close relation at all. Anyone any ideas on the subject?

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Dublin / Re: Birth Record, surname Walthew
« on: Wednesday 13 May 15 12:55 BST (UK)  »
OK have found the reference. It was on Ancestry under 'Search all records' - George Walthew. The Bishops Transcripts list George Walthew, draper,  m Sarah Ritson, spinster of this parish (says Britson but when u look at original doc looks more like Ritson) 9th Dec 1793 Liverpool. So someone has it wrong. Was Sarah a spinster or a widow?
Also on Bishops Transcripts is a child, George, xnd 15.04.1794 at St Thomas, Liverpool to George Molyneux and Sarah Ritson.


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Dublin / Re: Birth Record, surname Walthew
« on: Wednesday 13 May 15 11:33 BST (UK)  »
Following on from my comments yesterday it wld seem logical to look for a George Walthew of suitable dates who might be William's father. There is also a hint, in that George Molyneux Walthew became a hatter, that there may be a hatting tradition in the family. There is a George Walthew, hatter and tea dealer,of 71 Oldhall Street listed in Gores directory of Liverpool 1796.
There is also a George Walthew who married (acc to IGI) Sarah Ritson on 9.12.1793 at St Thomas, Park Street, Liverpool. Unfortunately the Lancashire Online Parish Clerks Project does not cover marriages at St Thomas in 1793 but there is a child, Mary Walthew, born 12.08.1795 and xnd 24.08.1796 at St Thomas, Park Street, who is described as 3rd dtr of George Walthew, hatter of Dale Street, Liverpool, and Sarah, formerly Wallace afterwards Ritson, his wife.This suggests that Sarah was a widow, maiden name Wallace previously married to a Ritson. But I think there may be  a mistake here and that George may have married 2 Sarahs in succession. I have my reasons but as I have now lost the reference I will have to get back on it.

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Dublin / Re: Birth Record, surname Walthew
« on: Tuesday 12 May 15 12:41 BST (UK)  »
George Molyneux Walthew was (acc to his obit) born 1799 but not sure where. His parents were William Walthew, a mariner, & Mary Molyneux who married 24.07.1798 at St Annes Richmond, Liverpool. U can find their marriage on the Lancashire Online Parish Clerks Project which is free to use.
Their wedding entry gave no parents for either but the only witness listed was a John Molyneux who, I suspect, was Mary's father but no proof.
Wm & Mary had the following children: 1) George Molyneux Walthew (2) William Walthew b.1800  (3) Mary Mason Walthew b.1804 (4) John Walthew b.1806 and (5) Martha Wilson Walthew b.1808. The 4 younger children all born in Holyhead on Anglesey but couldn't find George Molyneux Walthew listed on Anglesey records so he may have been born Liverpool or elsewhere, even possibly at sea.
I think Mary's father was John because of the traditional naming pattern - eldest son after paternal grandfather, 2nd son after father and 3rd son after maternal grandfather and on same basis this would suggest that William's father may have been a George Walthew.
I have marriage info for George's 2 sisters and brother Wm but no info at all on his yngest brother John.

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