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The Common Room / Re: Help me trace my grandfather's Ernest Bloomer ancestry
« on: Thursday 28 May 15 00:23 BST (UK) »
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The Common Room / Re: Help me trace my grandfather's ancestry
« on: Wednesday 27 May 15 03:50 BST (UK) »
Thanks a ton for this. All I needed was his father's name and I managed to trace his line down to Robert Barzilay Bloomer
& Hannah Benveniste Mendes (born 1509 - Gloucestershire)
At this point the name changes, it's spelled either Blomer or Blumer.
I went back further still and found the surname first started as Herrera which is strange but interesting.
At the same time though this seems to disprove that my line is related to a certain famous person by the surname Bloomer, since his family tree is known. My mother would say that he was her great great uncle.
& Hannah Benveniste Mendes (born 1509 - Gloucestershire)
At this point the name changes, it's spelled either Blomer or Blumer.
I went back further still and found the surname first started as Herrera which is strange but interesting.
At the same time though this seems to disprove that my line is related to a certain famous person by the surname Bloomer, since his family tree is known. My mother would say that he was her great great uncle.
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The Common Room / Re: Help me trace my grandfather's ancestry
« on: Wednesday 27 May 15 00:35 BST (UK) »
Forgot to add; he was born on October (the fifth teenth)
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The Common Room / Help me trace my grandfather's Ernest Bloomer ancestry
« on: Wednesday 27 May 15 00:22 BST (UK) »
Thanks guys
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The Common Room / Re: Does it sound or look like I have Jewish ancestry?
« on: Tuesday 26 May 15 14:30 BST (UK) »
Okay so I managed to find a way to look at family tree's a little bit (sort of.)
I seem to recall my grandfather saying his dad had the same name as him, so I looked for people of that name for the town he lived in. He was born in 1932 and I found a [his name] Bloom born in 1891. I traced this to 1850 and I found a Giles Blum - spelled with the u, instead of the double o's.
This would be funny though because that would mean the story of a certain famous person carrying the same surname being my great great uncle would be false because I've looked at his family tree and the names don't match up.
I seem to recall my grandfather saying his dad had the same name as him, so I looked for people of that name for the town he lived in. He was born in 1932 and I found a [his name] Bloom born in 1891. I traced this to 1850 and I found a Giles Blum - spelled with the u, instead of the double o's.
This would be funny though because that would mean the story of a certain famous person carrying the same surname being my great great uncle would be false because I've looked at his family tree and the names don't match up.
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The Common Room / Re: Does it sound or look like I have Jewish ancestry?
« on: Tuesday 26 May 15 01:15 BST (UK) »
I'll just summarize:
My mother said my surname means flower. There's multiple families with the name Bloom but some are of Irish or English origin with different meanings.
In a conversation about my surname I said 'sounds like it'd be hebrew or something, isn't it?' my mother said 'yes, actually there's people living in Germany with the surname Bloom, it's pronounced the same but it is spelled with a u instead of two o's.'
I looked up my last name on houseofnames and one of the origins was ashkenazic from Germany. I messaged my mother asking her if she knew what ashkenazic meant since my internet was slow. She said she didn't know. I said the family may have ashkenazic roots or origins and she quickly replied; 'is it Jewish'. Now I can't trace my grandfather's roots, and I don't want to go through the trouble of DNA testing for something trivial as ethnicity but this got me curious so I'm wondering how likely it is. I always got confused when people asked if I was a Jew. I take after my mom and once a rabbi came up to me to ask if I was. He then spoke about my eyes and nose. They say that about my cousins and one of my uncles also. It isn't a local thing either since some people with the surname who I know came from the Jewish variant share that kind of look.
My mother said my surname means flower. There's multiple families with the name Bloom but some are of Irish or English origin with different meanings.
In a conversation about my surname I said 'sounds like it'd be hebrew or something, isn't it?' my mother said 'yes, actually there's people living in Germany with the surname Bloom, it's pronounced the same but it is spelled with a u instead of two o's.'
I looked up my last name on houseofnames and one of the origins was ashkenazic from Germany. I messaged my mother asking her if she knew what ashkenazic meant since my internet was slow. She said she didn't know. I said the family may have ashkenazic roots or origins and she quickly replied; 'is it Jewish'. Now I can't trace my grandfather's roots, and I don't want to go through the trouble of DNA testing for something trivial as ethnicity but this got me curious so I'm wondering how likely it is. I always got confused when people asked if I was a Jew. I take after my mom and once a rabbi came up to me to ask if I was. He then spoke about my eyes and nose. They say that about my cousins and one of my uncles also. It isn't a local thing either since some people with the surname who I know came from the Jewish variant share that kind of look.
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The Common Room / Re: Does it sound or look like I have Jewish ancestry?
« on: Saturday 09 May 15 07:51 BST (UK) »
I can't afford a DNA test right now (I'm in debt from college) 
And, I tried looking up my grandfather's family history but I cannot trace beyond him. No matter where I go it's a dead end. I can't ask him because he's gone.
So really this is a guessing game, I'm just wondering how likely it is based on what my mother said and the pictures.
My other relatives look 100% English but some of those traits in the pictures pop up here and there on my mother's side of the family. Those traits are most noticeable in the pictures of the relatives I posted photos of.
My mother and one of my uncles are dark skinned all year round, and had what they called a 'beak' nose. Sort of like a Syrid nose, that was 'large'. I'm also darker skinned even in the winter. My mother was actually brown, though my grandfather looked light skinned. When I look at myself I almost see some kind of Semitic features there.
The problem with tracing is that there is also families of 100% English and Irish origin with the surname, unrelated to each other, and they live in England also. Though according to a person who researched the surname, he said the Bloom families near Manchester were crypto-Jewish, and my family lives very close to there and there were people with Hebrew names like Esau and Hezekiah with my surname living in the same town my family lives. I also met a man with my surname in my town and he had the black hair, short head, and brown skin also.
My mother implied she was well implied that Jewish was an ethnicity, rather than a religion.
And, I tried looking up my grandfather's family history but I cannot trace beyond him. No matter where I go it's a dead end. I can't ask him because he's gone.
So really this is a guessing game, I'm just wondering how likely it is based on what my mother said and the pictures.
My other relatives look 100% English but some of those traits in the pictures pop up here and there on my mother's side of the family. Those traits are most noticeable in the pictures of the relatives I posted photos of.
My mother and one of my uncles are dark skinned all year round, and had what they called a 'beak' nose. Sort of like a Syrid nose, that was 'large'. I'm also darker skinned even in the winter. My mother was actually brown, though my grandfather looked light skinned. When I look at myself I almost see some kind of Semitic features there.
The problem with tracing is that there is also families of 100% English and Irish origin with the surname, unrelated to each other, and they live in England also. Though according to a person who researched the surname, he said the Bloom families near Manchester were crypto-Jewish, and my family lives very close to there and there were people with Hebrew names like Esau and Hezekiah with my surname living in the same town my family lives. I also met a man with my surname in my town and he had the black hair, short head, and brown skin also.
My mother implied she was well implied that Jewish was an ethnicity, rather than a religion.
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The Common Room / Does it sound or look like I have Jewish ancestry?
« on: Thursday 07 May 15 06:52 BST (UK) »When discussing my surname with my mother, my mother said it meant flower (Bloom). I said 'that's a Hebrew surname.. isn't it?'' she said yes and said people in Germany have that surname but, it's spelled with a 'u'. Later on in the day, I messaged my mother and asked her what 'ashkenazic' meant. She said she didn't know and asked me why I asked her. I told her 'well, according to some research, this family may have ashkenazic roots, or origins'. She replied with 'what, you mean this family?' and I said yes. My mother texted back 'is it Jewish'.
I could've been dreaming but I swear my mother's dad (surname Bloom comes from him) was discussing his father, or grandfather long ago, and when he mimicked his accent it sounded Jewish. I may have recalled him saying something like 'he was a Jew' or something to that liking. I always get people say I and my mother look of totally Jewish descent and they say the same about my cousin and even more distant relatives. My family also lives in the same town that this Jewish family by the same surname settled. The 'Bloom' family with the meaning 'flower', according to houseofnames, is the Jewish one. It can be English or Irish too, apparently, and those families live in the UK too, but their surnames have a different meaning.
My mother and grandparents are gone now and I found it impossible to trace my grandfather's ancestry, no matter what site I go on, the family trees are simply not there.
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