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Thanks for the information on the whereabouts of Joe Craven's burial at the Northern Cemetery in Hull.  Yes, I believe Frances died in the 1950's, so hopefully one may discover where she is buried, as clearly not in Hull. 
I shall hope to be at the Goole museum on August 21st so will enjoy seeing what light the archive can shed. 
If anyone can shed light too on any link that might have existed at any time between the Newport Craven's with the Wakefield Craven's and/or the Hull Craven's, that would be excellent.
Good wishes
boothferryboy

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Thanks bendywendy for getting up into the loft to look out those boxes..... I am aware that people like yourself have done so much of the hard work already, so thank you for being willing to share your findings.   I look forward to hearing from you on the Craven's in Wakefield and Hull; we lived in Hull for a while a few years back and I still remember how vast those cemeteries were, but it would be good to know where such a mariner as Joe W Craven was laid to rest.

My wife and I are hoping to visit the Goole museum in August; would it be a good idea to try and make an appointment beforehand?

Thanks boothferryboy 

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Many thanks to everyone for their helpful responses on Joe William Craven.... yes, by my reckoning, I am speaking of Joe W Craven born July 1855, and baptised at All Saints Wakefield on Aug. 12th 1855, then marrying Frances Mason on Feb. 6th 1882.   Originally, I thought he was John W, but all the records suggest he was known as Joe throughout the census period at least.   

Thanks for confirming his death in Sculcoates in 1923, and hopefully, it may be possible to discover where he is buried.  I was interested (and sad) to see that so many of the children born to Frances and Joe died very early, but it makes it all the more intriguing who the children are in the picture held at Goole museum, which I take to be of John Craven (Joe's father) before his loss at sea in 1894, surrounded by probably six children and possibly two adult women who would appear to be all belonging to his family.   My guess is that they are mostly the children of Martha (Joe's sister) and Alfred Knox; sorry I don't have the url address for this picture.   I look forward to hearing more about Lily and John William in due course.

On the question of the links between Newport and Hull, there is a wonderful baptism entry of the baptism at North Cave Parish Church of Mary, 2nd daughter of William Craven brickmaker and Sarah his wife (from Crowle) living at Eastrington and dated Oct. 16th 1782, which records that William Craven is the son of John Craven also brickmaker of Stanley, which is presumably the village located on the Calder Navigation not that far from Wakefield.  Does this suggest that there is a good likelihood that at least some of the Craven's moved downstream in the mid 18th century from the Wakefield area?  It would appear that there were already Craven's in the Hull area by the mid 18th century, so my question lies in whether there were close family links between the "Newport" Craven's and the "Hull" Craven's before the migration of "upstream" Craven's to Hull that seemed to take place around the first decades of the 20th century, by which time presumably shipping priorities had perhaps dictated a move downstream - and where Joe W Craven dies in 1923.

I guess my interest here is in trying to get a picture of how the extraordinary shipping narrative from the mid 18th century that shaped the development of Goole and beyond - as there were, it seems, local families who lived abroad as part of the shipping trade from Yorkshire - affected people's lives. 

Thanks again for all your responses, 

boothferryboy   

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Am really delighted to have found this conversation about the Craven's....I am doing a family history for my wife, whose great grandmother was Martha Knox (nee Craven) younger sister of Joe W Craven.  We are hoping to come to Goole this summer and visit the museum as some of the family captured on the old nautical photos with John Craven seem to be familiar....  I would very much like to know where Joe W Craven died and was buried.   Any help much appreciated: I am also intrigued to know how the Craven's from Newport etc. connected with the numerous Craven's that were in Hull.   Thanks boothferryboy   

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