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Scotland / Re: Hugh IV Scotland connection
« on: Saturday 25 April 15 15:42 BST (UK)  »
Yes, I think what the previous poster said about the confusion between Hugh's wife Yolande of Dreux, and the Scottish Queen of a similar name is correct. Certainly, there seems to be no Scottish ancestry in the two hundred years immediately prior to Hugh's death and before that it would be difficult to ascertain any. The nearest Scottish connection seems to be that Hugh's great-great grandfather, Count Theobald of Champagne, was the elder brother of King Stephen of England, who married the niece of David I of Scotland- quite a stretch from this to claim Scottish royal ancestry! However, through this same line, Hugh is descended from William the Conqueror, King of England, if that's any consolation.
As for descendants, on the other hand, if you're at all interested in that, Hugh was a very distant ancestor of Mary of Guelders, who later became James II of Scotland's queen, and thus the ancestor of every Scottish monarch since. However, if you looked into his descendants enough, you'd probably find a lot more descendants- everybody intermarried at this point, so there are whole families who could trace their ancestry back to the Conqueror in about twenty different ways.

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Scotland / Re: Margaret Beattie nee Wilson, m.1868- Help!
« on: Saturday 25 April 15 10:55 BST (UK)  »
 ;D Thank you all so much! I've been following all these up on Scotland's People and they definitely seem to fit, and I'll explore further when I get more credits. Honestly, I've been poking away at this for ages and had half given up, so thank you for giving me such great help- this definitely opens up new doors. If anyone has any extra info, I'm still grateful for that but these responses have been a real spark.
Just can't express my gratitude  :)
Amy

P.S. Regarding the 1901 census from Newcastle (which is also a MASSIVE help), does anyone know the best way to get ahold of English records- website or otherwise? I've never had to deal with the English system before  :P

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Scotland / Margaret Beattie nee Wilson, m.1868- Help!
« on: Friday 24 April 15 23:10 BST (UK)  »
Sorry if this isn't usual procedure, it's the first time I've posted to this forum  :P

Basically, I'm having some difficulties tracking down my g-g-g-grandmother, Margaret Wilson. I have official records of her existence from 1866 onwards, but, despite the information given on both her marriage and death record, I can't find anything about her from before then.

What I know:
- In 1866, she had an illegitimate son named Alexander Wilson, in Stranraer Wigtownshire. At this time she was working as a domestic servant, though for who I have no idea. Alexander's father is left unnamed, but the child's great-aunt, Mary Thomson, was the informant. Whether or not she was related to Margaret Wilson, I am not sure.
- Two year later, in 1868 and apparently aged 19, she married my g-g-g-grandfather, James Beattie  in Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire (his home parish). Here we are given the names of her parents- George Wilson (occupation brass founder) and Margaret Rankin (recorded as deceased). A possible relative, Thomas Rankin, witnessed the marriage.
- In successive censuses (1871, 1881, 1891, and 1911- I'm having trouble finding 1901, possibly because the family may have been moving) her birth parish is unfailingly given as Girvan, in Ayrshire.
- After raising a small flock of kids and grandkids (including my g-g-grandmother Grace Beattie, and g-grandmother Jessie) Margaret died in 1918 in Uphall, West Lothian. She was a widow of sixteen years by this point. On her death record, her parents are once again given as George Wilson (deceased by this point, but last occupation seems to have been as a general dealer) and Margaret Rankin. She was buried in Uphall along with her husband and their daughter Grace.

However, as I said above, I have not been able to find any kind of pre-1866 information on Margaret, whether birth record, census, or otherwise.  ???
Margaret Wilson is of course an extremely common name so this may be part of the problem, but I have worked away at this puzzle for a couple of months now without a single clue (I have even tried tracking down Mary Thomson and Thomas Rankine, but without much success). I may be going at this completely the wrong way but I really can't think of anything else to do and so either a fresh pair of eyes or someone who has any information on Margaret would be a great help! Or indeed, any extra info at all, whether before 1866 or not, just to help me flesh them out a bit :)

Sorry for bothering anyone, I would normally give up by now but the family history tracing is partly a birthday present for my Dad and this is the last thread left, seeing as I came up against a brick wall with the rest of the family (all from Northern Ireland and a nightmare to find!).

As I say though, any info or tips would be a great help!     :)
Thanks,
Amy.

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