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Cornwall / Re: COLWILL/COLWELL Cornwall/Devon Border-help gratefully received
« on: Friday 27 March 15 13:31 GMT (UK)  »
Well, I found John Colwill in Week St Mary parish in Cornwall, as well as his wife Grace Trewin, and I learned a lot in the process. My cousin Denise in Cornwall searched the OPC database for me and found them, and then showed me how she did it. I also learned to treat dates in family bibles with a certain amount of caution. Grace Trewin spelled her name Trawin in the bible, and then entered the wrong dates for her marriage, the birth & infant death of her first child, and the death date of her husband (which someone had already corrected in her bible). She also used what appears to be a nickname (but entered it with an ambiguous spelling) for her daughter Tamsin, who was christened Thomasine. We still don't know much about John Colwill and are still searching, but he married Grace Trewin on 24 Dec 1827 at Week St Mary parish church. John's residence was Whitstone and he was a Carpenter by trade. Witnesses to the wedding were Mary Broad and Thomas Trewin. Before emmigrating to the U.S. around 1833-1835, John and Grace had children
 
William Colwill bap 21 Sept 1828 Week St Mary
Thomasine Colwill bap 27 Dec 1829 Week St Mary
Elizabeth Colwill bap 11 Oct 1831 Week St Mary.

The infant William Colwill was buried 10 Mar 1829 at Week St Mary.

I am descended from Thomasine (Tamsin) Colwill. I find it interesting that one set of my 2nd gr-grandparents came to the U.S. from Cornwall in 1842. Then their son married the daughter of Thomasine, also from Cornwall, 16 years after Thomasine's death from typhoid in 1862. 

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Cornwall / Re: COLWILL/COLWELL Cornwall/Devon Border-help gratefully received
« on: Wednesday 25 March 15 20:19 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, you have the right family with daughter Elizabeth Simpkins. The marriage and birth data came from the family bible, photos of which are on Ancestry - look for my "Mosier family tree Jan 2013". The jpegs are way too big to post here. I assume it is Grace who is doing the writing in the bible, and her spelling of Trawin is quite clear. I'm not sure where the Yorkshire birth came from - it is the weakest piece of data I have.

I had found both those Grace Trewins you mention (1803 & 1804) and had sent them to one of my cousins in Cornwall along with my Colwill family data to see if she could find any connections (this cousin is from a different line - not connected to Colwill - I have a lot of Cornish ancestry). At first she came up dry, but just this minute I got another email from her that she has found the mother (Grace Trewin b. 1803, I assume) and the children in Week St. Mary - says she is sending me the records. But she also says that she is having problems on the Colwill side. (My cousin also noted that Grace Trewin b. 26th Aug 1804 Kilkhampton to Lawrence Trewin and Jane Heydon appears to have died in 1888 at St Dominic.)

I don't know where I got the notion that John and Grace were married in Devon. I have that in my tree but if I don't get that confirmed soon, it's coming out.

It's interesting how this family line came to me. My gr-grandmother's bible said that her mother was Jamsin C., born in England, and died of typhoid in 1862. Took me years to figure out that it was Tamsin, not Jamsin, and to find the Colwill family in Ohio. And now it's taking years more to find the family in England.

Thanks so much for your suggestions - I'll follow up and keep the board posted on results.

Steve




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Cornwall / Re: COLWILL/COLWELL Cornwall/Devon Border-help gratefully received
« on: Wednesday 25 March 15 16:29 GMT (UK)  »
I, too, am having great difficulty finding my Colwill/Colwell ancestors and I, too, am looking in Cornwall & Devon. John Colwill & Grace Trawin were married on 24 Dec 1826, we think in Devon, but don't know for sure. Their UK-born children were William (b. 2 June 1827; d. 6 Mar 1828), Tamsin/Tamzin (b. 05 Dec 1829), Elizabeth (b. 04 Oct 1831), & Mary Ann (b. 15 October 1833 in Burton Salmon, Yorkshire). But perhaps Mary Ann wasn't born in the U.K. Sometime between 1832 & 1835, they immigrated to the U.S., but we can't find them on any passenger lists. Interestingly, there is a Grace Trewin, baptized 18 Sep 1803 in Week St. Mary parish in Cornwall, dau. of John Trewin and Susanna Bray. Rustyrex mentioned descent from the Colwell/Colwill family of Cornwall and Devon, specifically the Poundstock and Week St. Mary areas. Could there be a connection here?

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