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Herefordshire / Re: House Name
« on: Wednesday 17 February 16 11:46 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Jeanne,
Hello to New Zealand. You will notice my surname Lyttleton and recognise Port Lyttleton (although somewhere along the line someone spelled the surname wrongly on a certificate). By the way, James Acton came to Australia through New Zealand. He spent some time there I believe, but didn't find the farming the best.  I don't know why, as the farming in New Zealand is marvellous.
Regards,
Christine

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Herefordshire / Re: House Name
« on: Wednesday 17 February 16 11:30 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Jeanne,
Thank you so much for posting the photo of my GGGG Grandfather William Acton's home.  Now I completely understand why one of my younger Acton cousins who is an Engineer (typical profession for an Acton) builds Palladian homes in Victoria.  We all love this architectural style.  I will now send this photo to all my cousins. You have made some very senior Actons in their eighties and nineties very happy.  We are all in Australia.
Regards,
Christine

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Herefordshire / Re: House Name
« on: Wednesday 17 February 16 01:21 GMT (UK)  »
Hello to everyone who is interested in William Acton of Hay,
I am William's GGGG Granddaughter and live in Australia.  Firstly, I must acknowledge the Oswestry Genealogical Society for their assistance in locating this Roots Chat, as well as all the information provided to me by the Society.

I know of two William Actons. The senior William Acton (my GGGG Grandfather) was buried in Hay on May 2nd 1842 at the age of 82 years old.  His wife's name was Ann Acton, although I do not know her maiden name at this time.  He was known as Mr. William Acton Esq. He was a Maltster who was also a warden of the Anglican church in Hay. He did have three sons that I know of.  His son William Acton stayed in Hay at the house and continued in the occupation of Maltster.  Another son, Thomas Acton, moved to Wrexham where he was a Farmer and Commercial Traveller. A younger son, James Samuel Acton, is my  GGG Grandfather who was baptised in Lanigon (Hay) on 13 December 1799.  He followed his elder brother Thomas to Wrexham where he married an Ann Beardsworth in 1831. He was also a Maltster, as well as venturing into farming when he moved to Selattyn.  Afterwards, James immigrated with his family to Bungaree, Victoria, Australia which is near Ballarat.

As far as I know, the family were quite wealthy, well educated, and held positions of considerable status in the community.  Here in Australia, two of John's sons served as local Magistrates.  One of his grandsons was the Air Vice Marshall of the Australian Air Force and so it goes on. The Actons tend to be very academic and studious. They make excellent lecturers, doctors, engineers and accountants, military officers and Supreme Court Judges.   However, I must also add that we have plenty of everyday people in the family as well who do just as well at what they do i.e. working in a warehouse, housewives, salesmen etc. We just try to live good lives.

I really don't know how many children William and Ann Acton had.  There is a rumour in the family that James or his father was the son of a Lord Acton. I have never established this.  James' death notice states that he resided at Moreton Hall and Dorrington both of which are in Shropshire. 

I am just wondering whether anyone would like to post a photo of William Acton's house. This would be thrilling to see where my GGGG Grandfather lived on Broad Street.  It is marvellous that the house is still standing.  Does anyone want more information ?

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Robert Sherrard married Mary Buchanan
« on: Monday 10 August 15 01:25 BST (UK)  »
Hello DOBlake.
Thank you for your interesting post.  I represent the Australian branch of the Buchanans, with my GGGrandfather James's sister Jane marrying Robert Sherrard.  To be honest, I do not know whether you are related.  On our side, as well as the side who immigrated to America, there is no David known as a name in the following generations.  I cannot speak for anyone in Ireland.
Where I have researched since last posting information relates to trying to get back to Scotland.  There is an interesting article written by a William Charles Reid in America.  Look it up on Google.  It is titled 'The Reids of Centreville, New Brunswick'.  It discusses a marriage between an Elizabeth Buchanan to a Reid, and that the Buchanans were in Northern Ireland at around 1789.  This fits, as my James Buchanan's father was born in Landaire (a corruption in spelling of Londonderry in about 1799-1801.  A relative in America has his year of birth as 1799). 
I believe, but have not confirmed, that this Reid family is related to our Buchanans.  My James Buchanan took out land in Trewalla near Beaufort in 1865 next to a Robert Buchanan and a George Buchanan. Robert was the father of George.  I am in contact with this Robert's GGranddaughter.  This Robert came to Australia in 1853, at the same time my James arrived in Australia.  This Robert and George immigrated from Dublin, Scotland, although it is not known whether they originated from Dublin.  The connection is that this Buchanan family had a son whom they named Thomas Reid Buchanan.  As far as I understand, this Robert Buchanan was related to my James Buchanan as a cousin.  Certainly, my Buchanan relatives had contact with cousins in Scotland until the late 1950s/early 1960s.  It is the Reid connection which links my Buchanans to Magheramore and Tamnaherin.   I have also ascertained that my James Buchanan was born at Highmoor, Slaughtmanus.  My Buchanans were definitely at Highmoor in 1825, and most likely there in 1820.
The problem with your David Joseph Buchanan in my branch of the family is the middle name Joseph. Due to the sentiments expressed in those days in my branch of the family, it is unlikely that there would be anyone in the family with the name Joseph. 
I have isolated a relative in Magheramore and have his phone number.  This is my next step.  I tried to phone a last weekend, but I had the wrong area code.  I am not familiar with Ireland.  After that, I will be purchasing a month's worth of the Irish records and simply applying for any likely death certificate for a William Buchanan, husband of Mary Norris, who was the father of James, William, Elizabeth, Jane and the elusive Robert born c.1820.  In the listings I have seen so far, there are about three William Buchanans who are potential candidates. The Buchanans live a long time.
I am interested to know which photos have similarities with your family of Buchanans.  James and William Buchanan, the brothers who came to Australia, looked very different to each other.  Some of William's children look a lot like his wife Matilda's family who came from Manchester.
I wish I could help you otherwise.  If I find anything at all, even in the long term future, I will certainly be posting this information.

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Robert Sherrard married Mary Buchanan
« on: Saturday 28 March 15 09:57 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Ian for the photo.  There are still members of my family in this generation who look like William Buchanan (minus the beard), your dear Elizabeth and little Matilda May.

In relation to Elizabeth Buchanan who is Jane, William and James' sister (and possibly an elusive Robert's sister), I have the following information for the family of the Elizabeth Brown (nee Buchanan) in Mingo Junction, Jefferson County who may be our Elizabeth Buchanan in America.

The American Elizabeth Brown's (nee Buchanan) son Robert J. Brown is buried in the Oakland Cemetery, Steubenville, Ohio. His date of birth is given as 14 February 1854, Pennsylvania. His date of death is given as 14 March 1941.  His widow  Isabella's date of death is 11 September 1964 and she is also buried in the Oakland's Cemetery.  I have her birth as 1871 in Wheeling, West Virginia, and her maiden name is listed on records as either Burchett or Burkett.  IN 1940 they were living at Ward 3 in Mingo Junction, whatever that means.

This Robert and Isabella Brown's son James M. Brown is listed as being born on either 30 October 1888 (burial record) or 27 October 1888 (US Census) at Mingo Junction, Jefferson County.  He died on 22 June 1938 at Proviso, Cook County, Illinois and was buried at the Oaklands Cemetery, Steubenville.  His occupation, Stationary Engineer.  He lists his father Robert Brown (US Census) as born in New Jersey.  His wife was a Ruth Brown.  He served in the US Navy in WW1.

Steubenville has a very strong Genealogy Centre.  Many people have left the area. The population is roughly around 16 to 19,000 at the moment.  Unfortunately, I am not on the Irish records at the moment.  I only had access to them for one month.  Have to research elsewhere.  May subscribe to the Irish records later.
 
 

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Robert Sherrard married Mary Buchanan
« on: Sunday 22 March 15 22:18 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Ian,
William Buchanan was baptised on 22 September 1832 in Cumber Lower Parish in Londonderry. His parents lived at Highmoor in Cumber Lower Parish.
Did you see the photos of William I posted a couple of weeks ago?  Unfortunately, some of them don't scan too well at all.  I usually have them copied on special equipment from prints I have and they copy beautifully. 
Please take your time with this. The information about William, Matilda, James, the McGuire, Agnew, and Jones families from Beaufort is very complex to sort out.  They were all interrelated in Beaufort, either as relatives or neighbours.
I am the GG Granddaughter of James Buchanan.   I will post more info on William and Matilda soon.  I remember Matilda's father being a Miner which was a very good reason for him to leave Manchester.  There were a lot of children in her family.  I have some vague memory of one of William and Matilda's children moving to Queensland. You may know more.

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Robert Sherrard married Mary Buchanan
« on: Sunday 22 March 15 09:18 GMT (UK)  »
Ian,
I forgot to mention.  William and Matilda's son Herbert was killed in a bad car accident in the early 1960s.   

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Robert Sherrard married Mary Buchanan
« on: Sunday 22 March 15 09:14 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Ian and thank you for your information. 
I also had William coming to Australia in 1857 on the Melbourne, but was not certain whether it was him.  William's photo has always had the date 1856 on it. Here is William's obituary

We regret to record the death of Mr. William Buchanan one of the pioneer businessmen of Beaufort. The sad event took place at his residence in Market Square on Easter Monday.  He was a resident of this town for over 60 years and a Victorian colonist for 67 years.  He had reached the ripe age of 88 years and death was due to senile asthemia.  He retained all his faculties to the last and until a few weeks ago was an active man for his years.  The late Mr. Buchanan as a native of Slough Manus Londonderry Ireland and landed in Victoria in 1856 being attracted by the goldfields like many of his enterprising compatriots.  For many years he was in business as a blacksmith and the establishment is still being carried on by his sons. Deceased was respected by all who knew him or had business dealings with him and was a capable tradesman.  He was of a kindly disposition and endowed with a ready wit and keen sense of humour.  He was married in Ballarat when 35 years of age and his wife predeceased on three months ago. The deceased leaves two sons and three daughters to mourn their loss. The sons are Messrs. ES and HJ Buchanan (Beaufort) and his daughters Mesdames W Ballantyne (who resides in the Mallee) TE Sands (Clyde) and W Johnston (Melbourne). the funeral took place on  Tuesday and was attended by many representative residents of the town and district the remains being interred in the Beaufort Cemetery. The coffin-bearers were Messrs. G Pringle, WJ Stevenson, R Ward and Wm. Miller the pall-bearers being Messrs. GH Cougle, JB Cochran, Jas, Prentice C Morvill, W Dixon and A Duncan. The Presbyterian burial service was read by the Rev. JP McDougall MA and the IOR service by Mr. Geo. PRingle (Sec. of the local Tent) Messrs Sands and Johnsons undertakers Beaufort carried out the mortuary arrangements.

I also have a lot of information on Matilda.  It is the oddest coincidence that Matilda was a cousin of John McGuire who was James Buchanan's wife Mary McGuire's father.  John McGuire and his wife Anne (Nancy) and their children lived at Waterloo. Matilda came from either Salford in Manchester or from the next suburb.  Both John McGuire and either Matilda, or her cousin Matilda, lived at 3 Greengate Street, Salford. John McGuire was living on Greengate Street, Salford as well.  I wonder whether you know anything about the McGuires and the Waltons in Salford and Liverpool?  It was through Matilda Buchanan that James Buchanan met his wife Mary McGuire.  I have Matilda's sister Emma's marriage certificate, kindly given to me by another relative.  Your dear William Buchanan was a tea totaller and very involved in the Presbyterian church. 

William's oldest son William jnr went to the Boer War and died only a few years afterwards. He was totally broken in his health. Now I do remember some of William's children's families ending up in Violet Town.  Do you know whether the George Buchanan in Beaufort at that time was a relative?  He ended up in Violet Town as well.  William's family in Beaufort were very well respected.  The house William and Matilda lived in is still there, although it has been altered quite a bit.  His son Ernest's home is still there as well and quite unaltered. It needs renovation.

Do you know from where the Buchanans came in Scotland.  I know they came from somewhere around Loch Lomond, but I don't know the name of the town.  Actually, one of James Buchanan's grandsons married a Kerr from Victoria.  It is such a pity that this information about Scotland seems to be missing from the family history.  I know it is there somewhere. I just have to find it. I am waiting for information from my senior cousin.  Maybe someone in your side of the family knows. 

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Robert Sherrard married Mary Buchanan
« on: Thursday 19 March 15 16:45 GMT (UK)  »
I have the following information which may relate to Jane's sister Elizabeth Brown, nee Buchanan and a son of her's named Robert Brown.

Emigration from Ireland  21 September 1852  Ship: The Superior From Londonderry to Philadelhia Elizabeth Buchannon Age 20 From Scotland/Ireland.  There is no Dennis Brown travelling with this Elizabeth. 

I have an emigration record for another Dennis Brown, aged 21 on the ship The Bark Zone Hope on 8 June 1853 from Glasgow to Philadelphia on 8 June 1852.  This Dennis is listed as a Labourer and Irish. There is no Elizabeth Brown on the ship with him. This record comes from the Public Records Office, Ireland

Census, United States of America, 1920
Robert J. Brown
Age: 60
Born: c. 1860
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Address: Commercial Street, Mingo Junction, Jefferson, Ohio
Spouse: Isabella Brown, age 49 (Born West Virginia)
Father's birthplace: Ireland
Mother's birthplace: Ireland
Also resident in the house: Emma Brown, daughter, 21 years.

Census, United States of America 1910
Steubenville, Jefferson , Ohio
Robert Brown, 56
Isabella Brown 39
James Brown 20
Elizabeth Brown 18
Mary N. Brown 14
Emma A. Brown 12
Elisabeth B. Brown 80
Steubenville is very close to Mingo Junction in Jefferson County, Ohio

Emma Brown, the daughter of this Robert and Isabella Brown was born on 4 Feb 1898 and died on 22 October 1990 in Jefferson, Ohio. She married a Paul Hartmann, and, had two daughters that I could locate, these being Mabel, aged 16 in 1940 and Mary, aged 10 in 1940.

Thankyou aghadowey for the information on the marriage of a Dennis Brown and Elizabeth Buchanan in 1852. Yes, this lady's father is listed as John.  I have a baptism record for an Elizabeth Buchananan on 21 September 1823 in the Parish of Banagher, County Derry, Church of Ireland, whose father is John Buchanan and whose mother is Mary.

I have two cousins going off to speak to our most senior cousin at Easter. She does not hear too well on the phone.  She knows the most about the Buchanans in Ireland.  Hopefully, more will be revealed. This senior cousin is adamant that a couple of Buchanans in the family in Jane's and James' and William's generation moved to America.


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