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Berkshire Lookup Requests / Re: Birth/baptism lookup request Crispe family
« on: Saturday 25 April 20 06:39 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: JoHopkins on Tuesday 13 February 18 19:46 GMT (UK)
Very excited to come across this thread.  I am related to Ian Miller-Crisp's first wife's (Doris Muriel McLeod, nee Lancaster)'s first husband, Donald George McLeod.   I shall plough through the thread in due course.  If anyone knows what became of him I'd love to know.  I'd also like to know if Doris brought children from her first marriage (ie any McLeods) into the second one.  Anyone know?

Hi Jo, Sorry for the VERY belated reply, I must have missed your comment. It's possible McLeod children were brought into the new marriage, but that connection didn't get continued after Ian's death. My aunts (Ian's children) were very young (one was still in the womb) when Ian died and they always said that they thought there were half siblings in India but had no way of knowing who they were or how to get in touch with them. They thought that those relatives may have some key documents or just family knowledge about their father that may help and it was a point of frustration or sadness that they couldn't reach out. I have found no record of children from Ian and Doris so  maybe that family legend was based on Doris' children from her first marriage...

Thank you for your reply on this forum though, it confirmed some key information about Ian because I had the wrong birth date for him and looking into Doris allowed me to find record of Ian that helped me fill in some blanks. Thank you very much! 

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Berkshire Lookup Requests / Re: Birth/baptism lookup request Crispe family
« on: Sunday 22 February 15 10:51 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: KGarrad on Sunday 22 February 15 10:30 GMT (UK)
Some local libraries offer free access to FindMyPast - might be worth checking yours?

Thanks KGarrad, I'll check with my Uni library and major city library just in case :)

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Berkshire Lookup Requests / Re: Birth/baptism lookup request Crispe family
« on: Sunday 22 February 15 10:50 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: rosie99 on Sunday 22 February 15 10:28 GMT (UK)
Quote from: elissajeanette on Saturday 21 February 15 22:01 GMT (UK)
Is all that on Findmypast? If I got a subscription to that do you think I could access those records?

Findmypast has images for births marriages and deaths in their British India Office collections. You will need to pay to view the images.
Births       http://www.rootschat.com/links/01esf/
Marriages  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01esg/
Deaths      http://www.rootschat.com/links/01esh/


The military record for John Frederick Crisp on there is not your JFC. 

The copy of the will and deceased accounts for JFC are also on there.

You should also be able to find information on both of his wives and maybe his father / grandfather

FindMyPast sometimes have some very cheap offers running for a monthly subscription.  You could always do the 14 day trial but if you do ensure that you untick the auto renew box or they will take money from your account.

Rosie

Thank you Rosie! I might try the 14 day free trial subscription next week.

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Berkshire Lookup Requests / Re: Birth/baptism lookup request Crispe family
« on: Saturday 21 February 15 22:08 GMT (UK)  »
You people are amazing! Thank you for going to all this effort. There is so much information for me to sift through and try to separate the red herrings from the likely family members haha. I'll keep the thread open for a little while, if that's okay - the more information the better in this case! :D

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Berkshire Lookup Requests / Re: Birth/baptism lookup request Crispe family
« on: Saturday 21 February 15 22:01 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: ciderdrinker on Saturday 21 February 15 12:40 GMT (UK)
Hello
Yes the  info is on Familysearch and can be seen in full at their libraries around the world.
There are also some images on Find My past apparently but that is pay to view and I haven't got that.
Looking at the index on FindMyPast John Frederick Crisp died 1903 in India is on there
as is a possible military record for a John Frederick Crisp born 1842.
A Will 1903 which should fingers crossed mention any children.

Ciderdrinker

Ciderdrinker, is all that on Findmypast? If I got a subscription to that do you think I could access those records? Thanks for looking into this!

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Berkshire Lookup Requests / Re: Birth/baptism lookup request Crispe family
« on: Saturday 21 February 15 12:33 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: ciderdrinker on Saturday 21 February 15 12:28 GMT (UK)
Possible father in India
John Frederick Crisp widower born 1842 married 5.4.1878 Aden Bombay Martha  Hewlett born 1850 widow.
Fathers John Frederick and William Willreham

Child Sarah Ann Jane Crisp born 4.1.1879 Aden
Robert Henry 1888
Child first marriage James Thomas 12.4.1869 Satara Bombay mother Mary Ann.
Death John Frederick Crisp 1849-20.6.1903 Sewri Bombay.

Ciderdrinker

Thank you Ciderdrinker, I will have to try to look into that. May I ask how you found that info? My grandfather doesn't seem to be listed amongst the offspring, though... Still, a place to start!


Quote from: rosie99 on Saturday 21 February 15 12:08 GMT (UK)
Hi

Welcome to rootschat  :)

Is this marriage entry anything to do with him  :-\

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGJ7-6PR


Hi,

I'm almost certain this is him, though unfortunately the record is for his first marriage. I haven't managed to find any further information on John Fred Crispe (though the family names would seem to suggest it's definitely him - my grandfather went by the nickname John and one of his middle names was Frederick).

Quote from: KGarrad on Saturday 21 February 15 12:19 GMT (UK)
Welcome from me too! ;D

From Commonwealth War Graves, Chittagong War Cemetery, Pakistan.

Crispe, W.O.II (C.S.M.) Ian Andrew Frederick Miller, 15001639.
Royal Engineers, attd. 285 Docks Operating Coy., Royal Indian Engineers
Died 6th June 1944. Age 47. Husband of Ethel Crispe of Wombwell, Yorkshire.
B.A., B.Sc.(Edin)

Maybe the university info is a clue?

Hi :) Yes, sorry I forgot to mention in my original post that I've contacted Edinburgh University and they're looking into it. Nothing has come of it so far, and it's quite possible that the record wasn't kept. :(

Thank you for the welcomes! :)

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Berkshire Lookup Requests / Birth/baptism lookup request Crispe family
« on: Saturday 21 February 15 12:02 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

I'm looking for information on my grandfather, with the particular aim of finding out who his parents were and tracing their history. His name was Ian Andrew Frederick Miller Crispe (our family goes by Miller-Crispe, but I've never found it hyphenated in the records I've seen). He was in Calcutta, and my dad was born in India, my grandfather married an Ethel Ablett in India (my grandmother). I think my grandfather was involved with Messrs. Hoares Miller & Co in Calcutta (possibly as an accountant), but I can't find much information on them.

I have one record that lists his birthplace as being Berkshire, and his birth year was around 1897-8. I'd really like to find his birth record and baptism record if he has one.

I now have a bunch of information from the lovely people at ww2talk.com: http://ww2talk.com/forums/topic/56726-desperately-searching-for-information-on-my-grandfather-wwii/ from his first marriage, potential relatives, mother's place of residence (but still not her name), wwi and wwii service records and place where he worked, but still not his mother's name, so here's hoping I can find that soon!

If anyone can help me with his birth record I would greatly appreciate it... I tried looking it up on findmyfamily, but I couldn't get anything. Perhaps he wasn't really born in Berkshire, and it was a typo  :-\

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