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Family History Beginners Board / Re: George Augustus hayles
« on: Wednesday 06 May 15 13:03 BST (UK)  »
Oh wow. I do not have ANY 'hard copies or photos' brandydandylab. Aunty offered the folder to me. I returned home, showed my father, typed out a copy of the letters (as they were amazing to see). Then returned EVERYTHING in the folder back to Aunty. There were only copies of a b&w photo, a copy of a draft card pic I think, and photocopies of the letters. The only other photos I have are in emails from you.
I did not steal anything as you insinuate. I have no reason or desire to steal. I know how much work, and money, goes into researching as I focused 10years on my own surname.
If you received the folder and found items missing, I wish you would have approached either Dad or myself, instead of sitting on it for 2yrs to then accuse me of not knowing what I'm talking about on a public forum. It's an opinion.
As for having plenty of opportunity to join in, I didn't, I was in the beginning of a difficult pregnancy and life has simply gotten in the way.
You didn't have to be so superior about it. We are shocked at the words you chose. Your 'high horse' is me standing up for myself. Good day to you, I hope you share ALL of your facts with researchers in the future, so their opinions are more to your liking. I'm blocking this site and your emails. We have no need for negativity. No hard feelings on my part now, it must just be your personality. I wish you all the best.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: George Augustus hayles
« on: Wednesday 06 May 15 06:49 BST (UK)  »
Just to clarify, what exactly is it that has offended you? I haven't given anyone your purchased documents or shared anything. We were grateful for you to share it with us at the time.
 A previous poster (lydia) stated a personal opinion of a possible answer to having 'troubled' life. But you have attacked my personal only.
If my post caused you offence, apologies, but as I said, we only know what we are told. How would I know that there's more to his life if it hasn't been shared? Everyone is at different stages of research. You don't have to pull rank.
 If this reply was in person I would be standing up for myself just as I am here.

I wish everyone else luck with there genealogy research. I'm done.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: George Augustus hayles
« on: Wednesday 06 May 15 06:34 BST (UK)  »
Please share the whole story then, as all these previous posters had access to were the newspaper articles from trove, that unfortunately show a negative one side to his end days.
I simply added to the discussion to encourage a more human view of an individual, as opposed to a newspaper report.

The views of my father (your cousin), one uncle, Nan (your aunt) and two great grandmothers comments throughout the years, are how I had formed my own opinion. The letters you shared with us fit the story.
 
If you now know more of the story of George, please share it, as that's the only way anyone of us can have the whole picture, and learn more.
 
We
 only know what we're told.

STEPHANIE.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help Please
« on: Tuesday 24 February 15 10:07 GMT (UK)  »
Hello gnu :)

My grandmother Edith Hayles born, Newcastle 1900.

Parents; George Hayles. b, Newcastle 1871 - Married -  Isabella Jude. b, Sunderland 1871.

George Hayles; Parents George Hayles. b, Camberwell - & - Elizabeth Ritchie.  b, Scotland.

 I'm really pleased with that  so far the earliest photos I have of my family.

Thank you Bridget :) I really appreciate your help.

Hi Paul, I am from George & Isabella's son George's branch (Aust). Do you have a photo of them to share?


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Family History Beginners Board / Re: George Augustus hayles
« on: Tuesday 24 February 15 09:50 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, I do have his marriage & death certificate to share with you but I'll need some time to find them on pc as I'm on my phone. Also I not familiar with Robert? Only an Alfred and Henry as brothers.. ?

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: George Augustus hayles
« on: Saturday 21 February 15 23:32 GMT (UK)  »
Hello, are you a relative? He didn't legally change his name, so there is no official documentation. We have handwritten letters by him, to his family in UK. Within these letters he shows a conflicted personality. There were definitely emotional issues between himself, his parents and certain siblings. My personal thought is that he wanted to identify himself separately from his father George. He clearly adored his mother, writing to her only and repeating that he wanted to prove himself to his father.
With the help of dates, addresses, details on his marriage certificate & stories he told his children, all matching that of his UK life and his photos we concluded that he is the same person. It explained so many odd things about his life.
So in conclusion, there isn't any official evidence, but to his descendents, we are satisfied that George Augustus Hayles lived and died in Australia as Peter Augustus Clayton.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: George Augustus hayles
« on: Saturday 21 February 15 06:52 GMT (UK)  »
Further to the shooting story the tree states that he was also known as Peter Augustus Clayton. The shooting was widely covered in the newspapers and the story can be followed on the Trove website. So far I've found nothing to confirm that George Augustus Hayles and Peter Augustus Clayton were one and the same.

Yes he was the same person - I am his Great Grandchild. He was named after his father George.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: George Augustus hayles
« on: Saturday 21 February 15 06:49 GMT (UK)  »
An ancestry tree states that he deserted the army in 1918 , joined the Merchant Navy , jumped ship in Australia and was shot dead by one of his sons in 1940 in New South Wales !  None of this is sourced but there was indeed a George Hayles , Private in the Northumberland Fusiliers , who is listed on the Rolls as receiving no medals and deserted 8.1.18.

Which site is this information on?

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: George Augustus hayles
« on: Saturday 21 February 15 06:39 GMT (UK)  »
Hello, George Augustus Hayles a.k.a Peter Augustus Clayton was my Great Grandfather. Our family had only discovered his past in recent years. He used the Clayton name once in Australia presumably to avoid detection after leaving the merchant navy. He also became distant from his family in the UK. There were some issues there. He travelled through Victoria & Queensland before settling in NSW. He married Grace Harvey Hyslop. They had 10 children in total. It is true he was shot and this was covered by the local newspaper. There has been differing accounts of what actually happened however. He did not pass away immediantly, it was days later in hospital. He was coherent. His grave is unmarked. His father was called George Augustus also and his mother was Isabell.

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