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Cornwall Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Henry BATE - Calstock
« on: Thursday 29 March 07 02:14 BST (UK)  »
  :)Hello Cynthia,
This is a wonderful surprise.  I am a great great grandaughter of Sir Henry Newell Bate (Ottawa).  I have collected much information on my family over the years and do have in my possession several articles, 2 family trees and a lot of family "folklore".

I would be very interested in helping you fill in the blanks.

My father was Donald Cameron Bate Jr. born October 23, 1928.  Deceased April 7, 1981.
His father was Donald Cameron Bate Sr. Born December 19, 1903.  Deceased 1975
His father was Thomas Cameron Bate - deceased 1938 Ottawa
His father was Sir Henry Newell Bate - deceased April 7, 1917 Ottawa

My father introduced me to my great  aunts Morna, Louise and Marjorie.  I visited them frequently - especially Aunt Louise (married to Allan C. Bate) as he was raised by them after his parents divorced.

I corresponded with My great great Aunt Gyneth Lewis (Montreal).  She graciously gave to me many articles and artifacts from the past generation and their many accolades.

My father had 2 brothers:  Paul Newell Bate deceased 2006 and Robert Cameron Bate
deceased 1991 (Ottawa)

Moderator Comment: Details of living persons removed for privacy

I am very interested in acquiring historical date regarding my ancestors.  Sir Henry Newell Bate's father, Also named Henry Newell Bate did return to England.  I have a baptismal record from St. Agnes Parish showing other children's births.

Now, I also know that HIS father, William Bate was an Earl.  He married Jenny Thornton Bate.

I would like as much information on this family and the Trennick family line.  Our family tree shows "Bate of Trennick House" Truro, Cornwall.  I know that this place was torn down recently in Truro however the street is still named Trennick and the gates remaln.

I very much wish to come to England for more information.

I know that we have a direct lineage to the Stuart line and also the Bate castle ruins in Northumberland.

If you can help me with any of this I would be so appreciative.

Sincerely,

Sonia Bate (Swallow)

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Scotland / Re: National Archives of Scotland
« on: Wednesday 16 November 05 04:05 GMT (UK)  »
I am also searching for "currie" roots as far back in history as I can.  I read in one of the queries about a "Book of Arran".  My Currie family ancestors were from Arran and I would very much like to know where I can obtain a copy of this book.
Thank you, sbate.

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Hello,
We have a dual ancestry.  The BATE family from Northumberland, and Truro, Cornwall have a French crest on which appear the words "Dieu et ma main droit" - 3 right hands, the Stag with an arrow through the heart and another emblem which I do not recognize. if you have any knowledge of the history of our crest and the family between the years 1650 to 1900 I would appreciate it.  Thank you.  We do know a branch came from Fance and that they were Huguenots.

Thank you for your help.  Sonia Bate
 

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Scotland / Re: Currie birthplace in "Scotland"- where do I start?
« on: Tuesday 25 October 05 01:56 BST (UK)  »
Hello,
Currie's in Scotland - please check the Island of Aaron.  My great great grandfather was Neil Currie and he and his wife Flora Currie came to Canada August 14, 1828.  Neil had many brothers and sisters.  Some of the Currie's also were  from Glasgow.  We are also building the Currie family tree.  My mother's name is Vera Isabelle Currie.  My grandfather was Daniel Currie.  His father was Capt. John Currie and his father was Neil Currie of Aaron.  We have a very interesting history.  Hope this helps.


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Northumberland / Earl of Derwenter, Devil's Water, Northumberland
« on: Tuesday 25 October 05 01:43 BST (UK)  »
I am searching 2 families:  Sir James Radcliffe, Lord Derwenter and his brother Charles Radcliffe.  James was executed in the Rebellion of 1725.  Charles Radcliffe was the last English Lord hanged after the rising of 1743.  My family were Bate - Camerons and Currie. They all rode in the battle of Culloden and I am searching for true descendants of these families of Northumberland.  1700 - present.  Thank you,  Sonia Bate

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Cornwall Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Henry BATE - Calstock
« on: Sunday 23 October 05 01:53 BST (UK)  »
October 22, 2005
Hello, Steve,
Sonia Bate from Toronto, Ontario, Canada responding to your query re HENRY BATE.  I have brought to my office our family tree "BATE" of Trennick House, Truro, Cornwall and have the following for you:
1.  Henry Bate:  Grandson of Jenny Thornton (m. 18 Feb. 1783) and Sir William Bate.
                       :  Son of Capt. William Bate (Royal Marines, Commandant of Ascension Isl.
                          and Ellen Wilson of Scarborough, Yorkshire.  Capt. William Bate was born
                          1 April 1785.  Died 15 April 1838 (A very renowned gentleman).
                          Henry Bate was a clergyman.
2.  Dr. Henry Bate:  Of Stonehouse, Gloucestershire born ? 1813 - 1817
                        : Great grandson of aforelisted Jenny Thornton and Sir William Bate
                        : Son of Major Thomas Bass Bate (born 1 July 1786, died 27 Oct. 1856 in
                          Canada) and Katherine Skipp, born 1780. Died 27 Oct. 1856 at   Stonehouse , Gloucestershire, England.
                      :  He was brother to Capt. Edward Bate of the 7th Native Infantry. Born
                         1817.  Died 22 Jan. 1854 at Plymouth

3.  Henry John Bate born 24 March 1850 at Dunn, Ontario, Canada.  Son of Albert Bate
                     born 1808, died 13 March 1882 and Emma Hearle - married 6 May 1831.

4.  Henry Newell Bate of Trennick House, Truro, Cornwall  - Born 26 April 1792 
                    : died 1842.  Son of aforelisted Jenny Thornton and Sir William Bate.
                    :  Married 3 times.  First wife Lizette Meyer.  Second:  Emily Burke who was
                       the maid of Lizette Meyer, died 1842 in Canada.  3rd wife: Agnes.
                    :  Henry Bate lived in St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada and operated a
                       Brewery.  He had 6 children.  He returned to England where he died 1842.

5.  Sir Henry Newell Bate:  First son of Henry Newell Bate and Lizette Bate.  Sir Henry Bate
                   was born at Trennick House, Truro, Cornwall on April 9, 1828.  Married Lady
                    Catherine Cameron, daughter of Allan Cameron of Fort William, Scotland in
                    1852.  Sir Henry  came to Canada in 1833 with his family.  In 1854 he and his
                     brother Charles Thomas Bate established a wholesale grocery and provision
                    business (H.N.Bate and Company) and amassed a large fortune.  There is
                    much I could write about my great-great grandfather.  He was knighted in
                    1910.  He died April 6, 1917.  An incredibly noble and gifted gentleman.

Steve, I have listed some of only the bare bones of our family tree.  We also have Henry
Bate relatives from Northumberlad, Newcastle, Whalton, Dilston.  Please reply to this
memo I have sent and I will fill you in on a great deal.

Sincerely,  Sonia (Bate) Swallow.


 
     

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Cornwall Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Bate family Tywardreath
« on: Thursday 20 October 05 03:33 BST (UK)  »
Hi Jean Sandra
 
My name is Sonia Anne Patricia Bate from Toronto, Ontario Canada.  My great great grandfather was Sir Henry Newell Bate from Trennick House, Truro, Cornwall. His father was Henry Bate. And his father was Sir William Bate, Trennick House, Truro, Cornwall.  I have in my possession a large BATE of Trennick House family tree with commences in the 1700's with the entrance of Elizabeth Thornton who married Sir William Bate.  There are
many families enscribed.  I am working from my office this evening and am new to the RootsChat.com system.  I have our family tree at home.  If you feel that I can help you please get back to me.  My code name is sbate.

Bye for now, Sonia.

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Cornwall Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Henry BATE - Calstock
« on: Thursday 20 October 05 03:26 BST (UK)  »
Hi Steve,

My name is Sonia Anne Patricia Bate.  My name here is sbate.  I read your message today, October 20/05.  I believe I may have some family tree info for you.  My great, great grandfather was Sir Henry Newell Bate.  He came to Ottawa, and St. Catharines, Ontario with his father who was Henry Bate of Trennick House, Truro, Cornwall.  Henry Bate died at the age of 52 years in England around mid 1800's.  His father was Sir William Bate of Trennick House.  I am working from my office this night, but at home I have our full family tree which goes back to the 1700's and is full of many of our Bate ancestors and their offspring.

I wonder if your parents are John and Margaret Bate?  I have collected much of our family history over the years and am continuing this search.  Please get back to me.


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