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Thanks Sugarbakers.  I've written an email to the Society to ask where their archives are. George Ludwig remains a puzzle.  We want so much to find out where he came from, but it seems to be extremely difficult.  I don't really understand the German sites I've tried looking at.  But I appreciate all the help and information you have given me.  Thank you.  Without it I'm not sure I would have found out even half of what you did or have a clue about his sad life and that of his children.

Thank you so much for your help.  I am amazed!  What I don't understand is how you know where to look? 

George is a little older than we thought.  Seeing how hard the sugar bakers worked for less money than they should have, I felt sad to see how little the value of what he stole was compared to the riches of the owner.  How easy would it have been for him to get another job afterwards?  The theft happened after his wife,Elizabeth, died.  To think that his children (and I didn't know about John Edward) ended up in the workhouse - would that have been because he couldn't care for them or because he had died or left the country?  Might he have died in prison - effects of alcohol / withdrawal?

How can I find out how old the children were when they left the workhouse, if indeed both of them did?  And any more ideas how I can find out where George Ludwig came from and when?  I still don't know whether the Georg Ludwig I found in Brandenburg / Berlin is one and the same.

Thank you all so much!
 

Hi,  I've been trying to find out about a relative called Georg Ludewig Haupt that may have come over from Prussia to London.  We have the details that he married an Elizabeth Reed in 1835 and had a son George Charles and a daughter ELizabeth Ann.  The daughter died first and then the mother, but George Charles Haupt got married and... here we are!  Georg Ludewig Haupt is more of a mystery.  I haven't found a birth certificate or a death certificate.  He wasn't at his son's marriage to Lydia Lewis.  He may have gone back to Prussia or who knows?  I just wondered when I saw your offer, whether there might be anything in the resource you have access to, which I've never heard of, which might cast light on this mystery man?  Thanks

I have details of this ancestor, Georg Ludewig Haupt and Sophie Regine Voss having a child, Johann Friedrich Haupt and him being baptised in Berlin in 1834.  Sophie died in 1835 and Georg emigrated to England where our side of the family started.  I can find a Sophie Regine Voss born in Walkow, (now Poland) in 1812, but no record of Georg Ludewig.  Can someone advise me how to proceed, please?  We think he was born around 1806?  I thought I might get more information by tracing Johann Friedrich, but I haven't found anything on him either.

I have read that the first name would have been a saint's name and the second name the Rufname.  The baptism was in the evangelische Berliner Dom, so would that have been true for non Catholics?

Georg and his new wife and 2 children don't appear on the census records in London in 1841, though his son is there later and lived a long life. 

Thanks in anticipation.