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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: My mining ancestors -Normanton area
« on: Wednesday 04 February 15 12:34 GMT (UK)  »
I also have a connection with the Pope & Pearson mine explosion: William Clegg, one of the rescue teams formed as a consequence of the inquiry into it, was a brother of my maternal grandfather.

And my paternal grandfather's mother was a Stokes, in a line now traced back to Edward (1776-1839).

By the way, I'm now 78, and don't plan to die just yet!

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: My mining ancestors -Normanton area
« on: Thursday 29 January 15 11:54 GMT (UK)  »
Uncle Terry (christened Thomas Terry Wall)  31/10/1904-19/7/1995 was indeed the second child of Thomas Wall and Henrietta Broxup. I am still in touch with his daughter Nancy about the family history research. There were 7 children altogether - the youngest was Ben (1919-2007); I was glad we managed to visit him in Canada a few years before his death; and keep in touch with some of his children too.
I haven't done much research on the Broxup side - one of my cousins, Billy Broxup (a bookmaker, so the wealthy member of the family) had done quite a bit already on censuses.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: My mining ancestors -Normanton area
« on: Thursday 29 January 15 11:21 GMT (UK)  »
Phoebe's second husband was William Henry Delves (1857-1884): they married in 1881 in Wakefield district.
My uncle Terry used to visit his granny Phoebe in California Row when he was young (she didn't die till 1923), and he told me there had been 3 husbands.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: My mining ancestors -Normanton area
« on: Thursday 29 January 15 10:34 GMT (UK)  »
I find difficulties with some of this research more like a quicksand than a brick wall!
I discovered Thomas Stokes with daughter Phebe (sic) on the version of the 1861 census on FreeCen: it does not appear on a search on Findmypast.
Phoebe had 3 husbands (not 2): her father-in-law Benjamin Wall had 3 wives.
His parents were John and Hannah. There were 5 marriages of John WALLs in Staffs in the period to girls called Ann/Hannah: I can only guess which was the right one.
On the other hand I find no marriages of Edward Stokes to a Catherine.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: My mining ancestors -Normanton area
« on: Wednesday 28 January 15 17:43 GMT (UK)  »
Your list includes my grandfather Thomas Wall (who was indeed a coal miner living in Normanton). I knew his mother was Phoebe Stokes, and had traced her father as Thomas Stokes and (with some difficulty due to errors in census listings) his place of birth as Bron-y-garth (in the beautiful Ceiriog valley). As his father was dead by 1841 I hadn't managed to find his name, so was delighted to come across your posting. Is there a more efficient way I can communicate with you?

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