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Tipperary / Re: Fogarty Family in Loughmore
« on: Monday 07 March 16 11:35 GMT (UK)  »
Sorry our messages must have crossed.

I guess you are on FindMyPast. Have you looked at the Encumbered (Incumbered) estates records? They have lists tenants and have maps of lands being sold with descriptions, values and rents paid. You can also find out more by looking at Irish Newspapers. The land they lived on in Loughmore was owned by Sir George Valentine Goold. At one point in the petty sessions the Parkinson and Fogarty families are in court for aggressive trespass. The bailiff Sadlier (also notorious in the area) brings the case for the absent landowner a Yorkshire vicar?
I guess you already know about the Cormack brother buried at Loughmore. Do you also know about Bill Fanning and how he was ostracised by people of loughmore when he tried to by land another tenant had been turfed off for non payment of rents. There was a song written about it.
As you can see I love the wider social history that links to our ancestors.

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Tipperary / Re: Fogarty Family in Loughmore
« on: Monday 07 March 16 11:06 GMT (UK)  »
momo22

Are you looking at the parish register pages (images) or the index on FindMyPast? I have found the FindMyPast not very good. I found the Birth's and marriages by looking at page after page (until I was cross eyed) and making my own index for families was interested in. Try looking at the NLI site http://registers.nli.ie/
and filtering by parish then by year and date. I've just rechecked it and it appears two pages on from 11 March. It seems he was born March baptises in April with March 11th added to the entry. The surname is written Percusson.

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Tipperary / Re: Fogarty Family in Loughmore
« on: Monday 07 March 16 09:50 GMT (UK)  »
Hi momo22 and ozziek

I have Patrick Parkinson born 11 march 1827 at CLOHEYLE Loughmore. He died 1908 (Thurles registration district).
Mary Ann Connolly born 20 October 1830 Loughmore. She died 1910 (Thurles registration district).

The differences in ages in the census is also true of some burial inscriptions. It doesn't help finding the right people!

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Tipperary / Re: Fogarty Family in Loughmore
« on: Saturday 05 March 16 14:25 GMT (UK)  »
Hi ozziek

There are a number of variations of the spelling for Parkinson most commonly Perkinson. the ones I think you have missed are because they have been spelt in the parish register as PERCSON strange but true. Try this spelling and you will find more.
John b.1859 is living in Dublin on the 1901 and 1911 census. Living with him are his nephews and nieces named Gleeson. Children of his oldest sister Mary b.1854 who I believe married James Gleeson in 1882.
Here is the list of children of  Patrick Parkinson and Mary Ann Connolly I have found.

Mary 12 August 1854
Jane 15 April 1856
Michael 16 January 1858
John 17 September 1859
Bridget 28 August 1861
Joanna 17 October 1863
James 16 July 1865
Ellen (1) 11 March 1867
Thomas 27 September 1868
Patrick 29 October 1870
Ellen (2) 25 February 1873
Have a look at this site for Loughmore burials
http://members.webone.com.au/~sgrieves/cemeteries%20ireland3.htm


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Tipperary / Re: Fogarty Family in Loughmore
« on: Saturday 27 February 16 11:52 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Karen and ozziek

Karen I think we have spoken before? See past posts. I don't look at this site very often so missed your last post.

ozziek I'm please that you found my reply of interest. Where is Ballybeg? The nearest I can find in the Loughmore townships is Ballydaug? is this the same place?

Back in November 2015 the National Library of Ireland released the Irish Catholic Parish Registers FREE! online http://registers.nli.ie/ this is were I found the marriages and baptisms of the Parkinson family. I had to go thru every page one at a time to find them. It took a long time! However, Ancestry and Find My Past are releasing an index next month (March 2016).

You can contact me at either of these sites if you are a member. This site is too public to give too much personal detail.

Otherwise, I look forward to hearing back from you here. If you want me to look for anything or have any additional information I would love to add it to my Fogarty/Parkinson history. I have lots of documents and BMD's I can share.

Best wishes.

Cath

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Tipperary / Re: Fogarty Family in Loughmore
« on: Friday 26 February 16 11:34 GMT (UK)  »
Hello ozziek

Jane Parkinson was born 15 April 1856 in Loughmore Tipperary. Her father was Patrick Parkinson and her mother was Mary Ann Connolly born 20 October 1830. Mary Ann's Parents were John Connolly and Jane Cormick (Cormac). They lived in Graigrufrehane part of Loughmore.
Jane was one of 11 children. She ran away to Liverpool and married Philip Fogarty and had 17 children herself. My great grandfather was her third child.
I guess that you are descended from the Connolly line?
Would be interested to hear more about the Connelly ancestor's.

Best Regards

Cath

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