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My great great great great grandparents Samuel Davey and Ann Harry were married in Llanishen in 1785 but I haven't really found anything further back than that regarding the Daveys in Wales. I believe it's usually a name which is more associated with Cornwall and the Westcountry area. One bizarre thing though is that some members of the younger generations of Daveys went by Davies or David and then some even changed back to Davey again but I've no idea why. Another noticeable thing is that many of them had very Old Testament first names including lots that weren't all that common for the time when comparing with other records in Wales. I think some of them worked in the tin industry and moved around the various nearby villages including Machen and eventually a lot of them settled further up in the Rhymney Valley too. I'd be very grateful if anyone can offer anything more about the family ancestry.

wonder if there's any connection to this

Brecon County Times - 28th August 1913

Brynmawr Police Court. Monday  Before Messrs James Bloer and J Morgan.

HAWKERS IN THE "STONE AGE"

Bartley Gorman, hawker, Brynmawr, was summoned for assaulting Mary Fury, another Brynmawr hawker. Mr D G Harris was for the defence. Complainant said defendant came to her place using bad language and threatening her. He threw stones, one hitting use baby on the head and cutting it. Replying to the Clerk (Mr Bishop), witness admitted defendant was herself hit with a stone. The Bench dismissed the case.

Arising out of this case Mary Fury, alias "Birmingham," and Winifred Fury were summoned for assaulting Caroline Gorman. Complainant said there was "bit of a disturbance owing to Mrs Fury accusing her of stealing a piece of rope. Next day the two defendants came and struck her and threw stones at her. She only wished to have peace and quietness and if the defendants consented to be bound over she was also willing to be so treated. Defendants eventually agreed to this course and the Bench bound all the parties over, and ordered them to pay their own costs.

I do think though that Bartley Gorman and Caroline Gorman mentioned in the article are probably the famous bareknuckle boxer "Bulldog Bartley" and his wife who are related somehow to the present day boxing heavyweight world champion Tyson Fury.

I'm looking for anything about my great grandmother's sister Mary McDonough. She's on the 1881 census as Mary MacDonald living in Talgarth and the 1891 census living in Brecon, both with the family but I can't find anything much other than that. On the census it says she was born in Brecon but I haven't found her birth record. They were an Irish Traveller family; mother Winifred Fury and father Phillip McDonough. Sometimes they would change their surname to Macdonald, also seen it spelled on records as McDonald, McDonach and so on. In my great uncle's memoirs it says that my great grandmother said she thinks she might have migrated to the USA. I've seen a couple of ship passenger records that might be her but not sure.

Does anyone have any info on Black Martin Fury the famed bareknuckle boxer? He was a relative on mine but I'm not sure exactly which person he is in the tree as don't know which generation is him of a few people with the same name. I actually have a couple of the thread author's books and his name is mentioned but couldn't find dates, thanks.

Hi Rosegold,

Just a wee bit of info on German accents over letters, in case it might be of help in the future. 

As you probably know, umlauts are used in German: ä & ü.
If you are unable to type an umlaut, just add an "e" after the letter, i.e.: ae, ue.

To avoid "u" and "n" getting confused (in German script, this is possible), writers used to add a horizontal stroke above a "u". This was sometimes straight, sometimes almost half round.
Some writers still do this today, but it is becoming less popular. (As is actually writing using a pen, unfortunately... )

The thing is, people do not usually use the stroke above a "u" when signing their names. It is not normally a constituent of a signature. (There are, however, always exceptions to rules. )

I am therefore wondering whether Barbara's maiden name was actually Müth, because an umlaut is used in a signature if it contains a letter (or letters) which actually have an umlaut.

(I hope you can follow me! I know what I mean, but it is a bit tricky to explain it.)

I just wanted to mention this in case you are researching Barbara and are hitting brick walls. If that happens, try looking for Müth or Mueth.

Best regards,
Karen

Thanks Karen yeah there's still nothing new turned up so far, maybe not that much German based stuff listed on Ancestry etc